RE: Becoming a DBA questions

ITI here has Ads on the Cable schedule channel off and on, to drum up business.

There aren't many training companies left out there, not like there were 5 years ago.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 11:21 AM

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Subject:        RE: Becoming a DBA questions

I actually used to work for one of the originators of ITI. What she started for was not what it ended up being. She found that they were going away from teaching really. She got out of it as soon as they started to change directions. Made her pretty wealthy actually but I think she is sorry that it went in the direction that it did. I have worked with a lot of folks that came from ITI. Some where good, especially those that had a business degree before, and some just sucked. And they will continue to until they get a lot more experience.

-----Original Message-----
Iwaniec
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 4:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I wonder if the article is about a real person. Maybe it has been "created" by companies that run DBA courses and want to fiil classes.

It reminds me ITI commercials. The company went down last summer, then was purchased by someone else and last October-  you could hear on the radio:
"400,000 unfilled positions in e-commerce are waiting..."

Witold

On 4 Jan 2002 at 14:00, Randy Kirkpatrick wrote:

> I'm sorry ... but "a little over $100K" + $7K is way over what any
> reasonable person would pay for a newbie DBA! I stand by my previous
message
> ... this is full of crap unless he's doing more than DBA work! (Or the
> company is EXTREMELY generous and I want on board!)
>
> Randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> WILLIAMS
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:15 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Note that the article doesn't say that he is making $150K. It says that at
> his old position he was making a little over $100K, and getting Oracle
> certified got him a $7K increase. Well, changing jobs and getting a 7%
> increase isn't a big deal. It says that this position has a potential
> maximum of $150K. I would rate the article as misleading but not an
outright
> lie.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 2:20 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I agree also, I've been working with Oracle since
> version 4 and the rates here in austin,tx are anywhere
> from $35/hr to $75/hr, and chances are pretty slim finding
> an company willing to pay $75/hr for an senior person, and
> usually its an 1099 job when it comes to $75/hr job.
>
> dan whatley
>
> Randy Kirkpatrick wrote:
> >
> > Either he's full of crap, or they're paying him way too much unless he
has
> > some other managerial responsibilities. The only way to make 200K is to
be
> a
> > sought-after independent consultant (at $100 an hour or so). The going
> rate
> > in the Denver area is $40 - $60 an hour (sometimes up to $75, but never
> > $100!)
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Jared.Still_at_radisys.com
> > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 11:16 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > Lemme get this right.
> >
> > This guy is a *new* DBA. He's making 150k and he's not
> > even a senior DBA, where he can make 200k?
> >
> > That's all from me. I'm gonna go sulk now.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> > DENNIS WILLIAMS
> > <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFE To: Multiple recipients of
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> > TOUCH.COM> cc:
> > Sent by: Subject: RE: Becoming a
DBA
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> > root_at_fatcity.co
> > m
> >
> > 01/04/02 09:05
> > AM
> > Please respond
> > to ORACLE-L
> >
> > The following eweek article might be of interest. If the link gets
> mangled,
> > the article is at http://www.eweek.com Following the Data to a DBA Job
by
> > Jeff Moad.
> > http://www.eweek.com/article/0,3658,s%253D703%2526a%253D20563,00.asp
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