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RE: The DBA in the IS organization

From: Kevin Lange <kgel_at_ppoone.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:29:28 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00390616.20010917082018@fatcity.com>

David;
  My personal opinion is that it never did mater who I worked for (which organization, which manager) as long as they were all good and my job what what I expected. I was a "Tech Support Analyst" for a long time. But, what I did was perform DBA duties on Oracle and DB2 databases as well as System Administration duties on AIX. I was happy to just do my work and not worry about the politics of who I worked for and what they called me.

That is ..... until I went job hunting. At this point it was real hard to get what I wanted as a DBA because I was not "officially" working as a DBA for the company I wanted to leave.

I finally talked to my boss (not telling him about the interviews, of course) and ended up being transfered to the DBA group with the title of Senior DBA. This helped a lot.

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In my current job I "officially" work for the DBAs but spend a lot of my time working with the Development Team and the Systems Team. At this point in time I have a modified opion about jobs and titles ..... I still do not care which department I work for, or who I work for .... just as long as I get to do the job I was put here for ... and I have the title that goes along with it.

As far as equal footing with Network Admins .... if you are talking about the guys who do the work, I would say yes. If you are talking about the guys who run the organization, I would say no. That goes the same for Development Managers. I have never thought of a DBA as any kind of management postion. There should be someone over the dbas in an organization to handle all the day to day political junk and let us do our job. If you are the only DBA .... then just find a spot and work for whomever they are, as long as you can do your job. If that is the IS Manager ...great. If its the development Manager ... so be it.

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Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 6:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

I am wondering how my fellow DBA's fit into their IS organization. My situation is this. I was hired just a little over a year ago as a DBA but my official title is network programmer. Except for some job scripting I have not done any coding. I am the only DBA for 5 Oracle databases and 4 SQL Server installations. Currently my boss is the head of development. I work with the developers and with the network admins equally. I sometimes feel a bit of a conflict with me being under the developers. I have been thinking about approaching the VP of IS about having me be under him rather than being under development. I feel I need to have equal footing with the development managers and with the network admins. Right now I am kind in limbo with no real authority.
So anyway, I am just wondering where you fit in your organization and what is the appropriate place for the DBA.
And yes I got called into work. Sucks to be me today. :o)

Thanks,

Dave
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