Time to chip in my horror story (and why I'll never do
permie again). Company in OZ decided to cut down
numbers. Bosses walked around with security guards
into each persons office and tell them they have 5
minutes to leave to premises and give them a ticket
which has a 15minute after-hours timeslot in which
they will have a supervised cleanout of their
desk/office etc.
They were marched down the lift and out into the
street. I only knew this because the girl that gave
me a lift to work phoned me from home and said "sorry,
can't take you home, my job is gone"
So - if you ever get a chance to work for BHP in
Australia.... :-(
Cheers
Connor
- Kimberly Smith <kimberly.smith_at_gmd.fujitsu.com>
wrote: > Man, I remember the day when there were about
60 IT
> staff here.
> Now, I believe its under 20 or will be very shortly.
> It was a
> tough week here last week. We had to match what our
> client was
> letting go so we did that no problem. Pretty much
> everyone is
> off to another project from us. But to come in
> every morning and
> see the Fujitsu HR department catching people at the
> door before
> going into the Fab to give them their walking papers
> was tough.
> Its the first place I have worked at that has gone
> through that
> (while I was there). I believe some upper
> management will get
> their papers this week.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2001 9:05 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> if 40 is small, is 16 microscopic? (and of that 16,
> 5 are consultants)
>
>
> >From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: Re: !! Keeping the list alive
> >Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 12:35:23 -0800
> >
> >
> >Just to add to my previous comment:
> >
> >I'm working at a company with small ( 40 or so ) IS
> shop.
> >
> >The weak do not survive in this environment. The
> developers
> >I work with here are great. They're bright, hard
> working and
> >un-egotistical. They are even will to take
> direction from the
> >DBA in database related matters.
> >
> >Not a duhveloper in the bunch.
> >
> >Ya gotta love it!
> >
> >Jared
> >
> >On Thursday 30 August 2001 14:16, you wrote:
> > > Um, Kevin, if the shoe doesn't fit, then don't
> wear it. :)
> > >
> > > Not all developers are duhvelopers, in fact,
> most of the ones I know
> > > are very good, but the ones that are duhvelopers
> require
> > > so much attention that it kind of wears on you.
> :)
> > >
> > > And some of us DB-ehs can do just fine writing
> apps, thank you,
> > > but we choose a path that requires less
> 'direction' from users. ;)
> > >
> > > Jared
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Thomas, Kevin"
> > > <Kevin.Thomas_at_cal To:
> Multiple recipients
> >of
> > > list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> anais.com>
> cc:
> > > Sent by:
> Subject: RE: !! Keeping
> >the
> > > list alive root_at_fatcity.com
> > >
> > >
> > > 08/30/01 08:26 AM
> > > Please respond to
> > > ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have to say I resent being called a
> duhveloper, granted the majority
> > > couldn't tune a banjo let alone tune a piece of
> SQL, but as a techie
> >(and
> > > we
> > > all are), I find this list invaluable for
> getting advice on a wide range
>
> >of
> > > topics, not just keeping a DB up and running or
> tuned...I don't call you
> > > guys names, and let's face it you DB-ehs?
> couldn't write a decent
> > > application if your lives depended on it...
> > >
> > > (blue touch-paper lit, retire a distance, do not
> re-approach once lit,
> >and
> > > wait for fireworks)
> > >
> > >
> > > "hit any user to continue"
> > > __________________
> > >
> > > Kevin Thomas
> > > Technical Analyst
> > > Deregulation Services
> > > Calanais Ltd.
> > > (2nd Floor East - Weirs Building)
> > > Tel: 0141 568 2377
> > > Fax: 0141 568 2366
> > > http://www.calanais.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: 30 August 2001 15:46
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > no, those posts keep us "underworked" DBAs from
> killing the duhvelopers
> >who
> > >
> > > make us do the same thing over and over and over
> and who never listen
> >when
> > > we tell them the correct way to design the
> tables.
> > >
> > > :)
> > >
> > > From: "Boivin, Patrice J"
> <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
> > >
> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >Subject: RE: !! Keeping the list alive
> > > >Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 04:00:52 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Just look at the number of OT postings in the
> last couple of months...
> > > >
> > > >: )
> > > >
> > > >Patrice Boivin
> > > >Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> > > >
> > > >Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit.
> des systèmes
> > > >Technology Services | Services
> technologiques
> > > >Informatics Branch | Direction de
> l'informatique
> > > >Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des
> Maritimes, MPO
> > > >
> > > >E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca
> <mailto:boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com
> [SMTP:schmoldt_at_fyiowa.com]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29,
> 2001 7:58 PM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list
> ORACLE-L
> > > > Subject: RE: !! Keeping the
> list alive
> > > >
> > > > You're surprised at those willing to
> pay?
> > > >
> > > > You have to realize that most DBAs
> are over-payed and
> > >
> > > under-worked
> > >
>
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