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RE: but will it run windows?

From: Christopher Spence <cspence_at_FuelSpot.com>
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2001 13:11:26 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.003704A4.20010819131520@fatcity.com>

 Ebay uses windows for everything now.

They used to have Sun with Oracle and NT front end. Now they are completely 2000.

Hmm, no outages lately on ebay, yet there were many outages while running Sun. I KNOW Sun is more stable, perhaps it is other reasons? No way!

Micheal, I have many many NT boxes that have been up for months on end, I have many Win2000 boxes are the same. But seemly better.

Ebay does not use E10k fully loaded, they are completely SQL Server farms now.

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 8/17/01 6:15 PM

it looks like they are running windoze iis on the front end, out of exodus.

http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.ebay.com

gene

>>> Michael.Jenkins_at_Nextel.com 08/17/01 05:45PM >>> I also heard that all of the code for eBay is written in C++ for speed. Supposedly they have a server farm as far as the eye can see. The contents?
All E10K's, fully loaded! That's some bucks. Anybody on this list work for
eBay? Want to confirm or deny (we want full disclosure!!)

--Michael

p.s. Just for the record, even Microsoft touts the fact that Windows 2000
Server only needs to be rebooted every week instead of every other day as
compared with NT 4.0. There must be some truth to the fact that the O/S isn't ready for prime-time!?!

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 5:14 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

When did eBay switch to Microsoft products? Last I heard they were running
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-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

No I did not say that.

What I am saying, is most people install 100 programs, one of them acts like
crap and they blame it on the OS.

Because there is 5 million people programming for Win32 and probably 2 million of them suck, that is not at all the OS's fault.

The problem (in my opinion) stems from there is too many people coding for
the os and too many hardware manufactors putting out code and hardware. It
is almost impossible to guarentee compatability, much less competent code.

There api is fairly open, it is almost completely published. Although it is not open source or anything of that nature.

"Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
Phone: (978) 322-5744
Fax: (707) 885-2275

Fuelspot
73 Princeton Street
North, Chelmsford 01863  

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:33 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

So you're saying, unless you run only M$ products it still sucks. They need
to tighten up and open up the API's. Then windows would be great.

--Scott

Christopher Spence wrote:
>
> I am much a unix person over M$, but the simple fact is Win32 serves
> many purposes. And it crashing all the time is a fairy tail that unix

> people like to tell. Yeah, it isn't as stable as unix, and most of
> the problems are related to software and drivers which have nothing to

> do with the OS.
>
> Christopher R. Spence
> Oracle DBA

>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:27 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Spence [mailto:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:51 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: but will it run windows?
> >
> > I hate windows and all it stands for, but I can't stand when people
> > say it crashes all the time and completely useless.
>
> OK, I stand corrected. Windows crashes just half of the time and if it

> wasn't for Windows, I'd have to explain how to actually use a computer

> to a far too big lot of ignorant people. It is also a marvelous,
> although somewhat overpriced alternative for the Sony's PS2.
> Hopefully, the statement above will mitigate your feelings toward us,
> the poor Unix geeks that use unix to provide for our everyday's bread

> and Dom Perignon.



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