Re: but will it run windows?

Christopher Spence wrote:
>
> Ebay uses windows for everything now.
>
> They used to have Sun with Oracle and NT front end.
> Now they are completely 2000.
>
> Hmm, no outages lately on ebay, yet there were many outages while running
> Sun. I KNOW Sun is more stable, perhaps it is other reasons? No way!
>
> Micheal, I have many many NT boxes that have been up for months on end, I
> have many Win2000 boxes are the same. But seemly better.
>
> Ebay does not use E10k fully loaded, they are completely SQL Server farms
> now.
>

I believe that many of their problems where hardware-related, but Ebay was under a non-disclosure agreement in order to be provided support. Most likely, the problems were CPU cache related.

> -----Original Message-----
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: 8/17/01 6:15 PM
>
> it looks like they are running windoze iis on the front end, out of
> exodus.
>
> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.ebay.com
>
> gene
>
> >>> Michael.Jenkins_at_Nextel.com 08/17/01 05:45PM >>>
> I also heard that all of the code for eBay is written in C++ for speed.
> Supposedly they have a server farm as far as the eye can see. The
> contents?
> All E10K's, fully loaded! That's some bucks. Anybody on this list work
> for
> eBay? Want to confirm or deny (we want full disclosure!!)
>
> --Michael
>
> p.s. Just for the record, even Microsoft touts the fact that Windows
> 2000
> Server only needs to be rebooted every week instead of every other day
> as
> compared with NT 4.0. There must be some truth to the fact that the O/S
> isn't ready for prime-time!?!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 5:14 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> When did eBay switch to Microsoft products? Last I heard they were
> running
> Oracle on Solaris. I checked their website just now, and they are
> looking
> for Oracle DBA's:
>
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:35 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> No I did not say that.
>
> What I am saying, is most people install 100 programs, one of them acts
> like
> crap and they blame it on the OS.
>
> Because there is 5 million people programming for Win32 and probably 2
> million of them suck, that is not at all the OS's fault.
>
> The problem (in my opinion) stems from there is too many people coding
> for
> the os and too many hardware manufactors putting out code and hardware.
> It
> is almost impossible to guarentee compatability, much less competent
> code.
>
> There api is fairly open, it is almost completely published.
> Although it is not open source or anything of that nature.
>
> "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that
> way
> when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."
>
> Christopher R. Spence
> Oracle DBA
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> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 12:33 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> So you're saying, unless you run only M$ products it still sucks. They
> need
> to tighten up and open up the API's. Then windows would be great.
>
> --Scott
>
> Christopher Spence wrote:
> >
> > I am much a unix person over M$, but the simple fact is Win32 serves
> > many purposes. And it crashing all the time is a fairy tail that unix
>
> > people like to tell. Yeah, it isn't as stable as unix, and most of
> > the problems are related to software and drivers which have nothing to
>
> > do with the OS.
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence
> > Oracle DBA
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:27 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christopher Spence [mailto:cspence_at_FuelSpot.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 10:51 AM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: RE: but will it run windows?
> > >
> > > I hate windows and all it stands for, but I can't stand when people
> > > say it crashes all the time and completely useless.
> >
> > OK, I stand corrected. Windows crashes just half of the time and if it
>
> > wasn't for Windows, I'd have to explain how to actually use a computer
>
> > to a far too big lot of ignorant people. It is also a marvelous,
> > although somewhat overpriced alternative for the Sony's PS2.
> > Hopefully, the statement above will mitigate your feelings toward us,
> > the poor Unix geeks that use unix to provide for our everyday's bread
>
> > and Dom Perignon.
>
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