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I just always figure that if I am doing my job properly, they will be wondering why they pay me what they do (too little, but more than they think they should, considering "nothing ever goes wrong")
deliberately letting something fail so as to point out a problem is definitely NOT the way to get things done.
>From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com
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>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: Griping about auditing (not the Oracle Kind)
>Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 12:00:58 -0800
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>Kimberly,
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>We're on the same wavelength, as I was thinking the same thing.
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>Procrastinating on something that you know needs to be done
>is not an ethical way of dealing with this, IMO.
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>Jared
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> Kimberly Smith
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>I say that if you wait until you database has an error you really
>aren't proving much except that you are not proactive in your job.
>Which, in my book, makes you not a very good DBA. Dealing with a
>dumb process is one thing (we have our fair share on this account)
>but I take to much pride in my work to let things fail because I
>need to fill in a piece of paper.
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>Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:43 AM
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>Wahey !!! The answer I was going to provide. We started calling the manager
>up quite frequently at home to authorise changes - he eventually saw sense.
>Not quite as bad as 2am in the morning but inconvenient enough for him to
>put a stop to it.
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>Best of Luck.
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>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: 25 June 2001 17:07
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>Jay;
> I have had to go thru the same thing a couple times on a previous job
>with
>Auditors. Every time those kind of restrictions were placed on us it
>brought things to a snails pace or, in some conditions, a complete halt.
>Sooner or later they realized that it was unreasonable and lifted them.
>But
>it was a pain until they did it.
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>It took them a while to realize that we HAD to work the way we did in order
>to keep things running smoothly.
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>I personally think that you should wait with resizing any of your
>production
>data files until you get oracle errors saying that things can not extend.
>At that time, call up the Sr. VP at 2 am in the morning and tell him that
>you have a crisis but you can not proceed until you get his permission
>because of the restrictions placed on you by the Auditors. Repeat this
>process as many times as neccessary for them to lift the restrictions.
>
>Kevin
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>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 9:32 AM
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>We've been through an internal audit and I was just wondering if anyone
>else
>has to deal with the rather ludicrous requirements I now have. In order to
>add or resize a datafile I now need to fill out a form and get Senior VP
>approval and the alert logs must be reviewed every day by a non-DBA in
>order
>to be certain that I didn't make any database changes without such
>approval.
>The auditors were horrified to discover that not only did I do such things
>whenever I thought them necessary but that we didn't have a non-DBA review
>everything I did after an Oracle upgrade to ensure I didn't install any
>other software.
>Fortunately I managed to convince them that yes, I really did need a Unix
>login (they were skeptical).
>
>So, any similar horror stories?
>
>Jay Miller
>Sr. Oracle DBA
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