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RE: OT / LOL/ Serious Question (believe it or not)...

From: Jenkins, Michael <Michael.Jenkins_at_Nextel.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 16:10:28 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00321586.20010607145556@fatcity.com>

It depends on what you write. I'm sure Stephen King, etc. makes more than 200k/yr. I think the money is probably in the licensing. Oracle books could have a entire marketing campaign that would even the score. Let's see... we need T-Shirts, posters, kiddie toys as Micky Dees as well as a slickly produced movie.

Also, I bet there is a reason that a typical novel cost $25 and a typical Technical Manual costs $50!

Oh, just wondering what kind of royalty payment you get from a book club that offers free books to join up. I think that Music Artists receive none *YUK* Just my .0000125 cents (Royalty payment, don't you know!)

This has been such a fun thread. And scarry too. I don't even have a hint of a wish to write an Oracle Book now! My hat's off to all of the hard working authors out there :)

--Michael

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:15 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Well I think if we all pitch in a bit, and put out one heck of a book and convince Steven Spielberg to take it to the screen, yes we would be rolling in
Do$$$$.
Oracle from the ground up ! a thriller, starring in order of appearance:

"The Goddess" ---- Rachel Carmichael
"The Tuner" --- Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
"Remote" --- Ari Kaplan
"Store Keeper" -- Ian Abramson

..........

and others, just imagine the movie it would be wicked!

oops!
Sorry I Just lost it

Rachel Carmichael wrote:

> let's see, I think Dad paid something on the order of $10K to publish his
> book (about 100 copies). Of course, it was a hard-cover edition.
>
> and editors don't come cheap.
>
> Alex -- how much money do you really think an author makes on a book???
>
> I'd figure that the average book (and technical books have to be updated
> about every 18 months) takes about 500 hours to write (this is a number
> Kevin Loney has come up with and I'm willing to believe him, given his
> experience)
>
> So... as a consultant let's say I work cheap (in NY anyway) for $100/hr
>
> 500 hours over a 40 hour week = 12.5 weeks or about 3 months
>
> so.... 500*100 = $50,000 for 3 months, or $200,000 over a year
>
> THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU MAKE ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS AN AUTHOR!!!
>
> Damn it, best-selling authors don't make that kind of money.
>
> Geez, wake up and smell the coffee, technical writing is NOT done to get
> rich.
>
> >From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
> >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:11:00 -0800
> >
> >I am sure that any of working DBA's have this money to put up front. I
> >don't
> >think that risk to invest in the book is more than in the stock market.
> >Also
> >what is the problem to hire editor (especially not technical). Should not
> >be
> >too expencive. Of cource it is more work, but one can get much more
money.
> >
> >Alex Hillman
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:26 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >self-publishing houses charge you to publish the book (yes, they do,
that's
> >how my father-in-law published his book)
> >
> >I also doubt that they give you much in the way of help in editing your
> >book, so that if your English is not good (as the case of the author that
> >Jonathan is working with) you end up with an unreadable book.
> >
> >
> > >From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: Serious Question (believe it or not)...
> > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 07:45:49 -0800
> > >
> > >I would one of self-publishing houses like Technion where you can get
33%
> > >of
> > >sales.
> > >If your book is any good it will sell in the same volume as with any
> >other
> > >publisher (not that they spend a lot of money for promotion any way).
> > >
> > >Alex Hillman
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:31 AM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >First would be to prepare and send a synopsis to the
> > >'big name' oracle publishers - O'Reilly, Wrox and the
> > >like..
> > >
> > >hth
> > >connor
> > >
> > >--- Jim Hawkins <jhawkins_at_primary.net> wrote: > All,
> > > >
> > > > I am very interested in collaborating with others in
> > > > the writing of an
> > > > Oracle technical book (DBA subject matter). I am
> > > > interested in how those of
> > > > you who have done this (ala Rachel), got started or
> > > > made the right
> > > > connections. I do have a somewhat literary
> > > > background, so I know I can do
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > Jim
> > > >
> > > > Jim Hawkins
> > > > Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator
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