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RE: OT / LOL/ Serious Question (believe it or not)...

From: Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 20:55:06 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0032186F.20010607171138@fatcity.com> 







>This has been such a fun thread.  And scarry too.  I don't even have >a 

>hint of a wish to write an Oracle Book now!  My hat's off to all of >the 

>hard working authors out there :)

>




Michael -- ah, then my work is done :)






>From: "Jenkins, Michael" <Michael.Jenkins_at_Nextel.com>

>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com

>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>

>Subject: RE: OT / LOL/ Serious Question (believe it or not)...

>Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 14:55:56 -0800

>

>It depends on what you write.  I'm sure Stephen King, etc. makes more than

>200k/yr.  I think the money is probably in the licensing.  Oracle books

>could have a entire marketing campaign that would even the score.  Let's

>see... we need T-Shirts, posters, kiddie toys as Micky Dees as well as a

>slickly produced movie.

>

>Also, I bet there is a reason that a typical novel cost $25 and a typical

>Technical Manual costs $50!

>

>Oh, just wondering what kind of royalty payment you get from a book club

>that offers free books to join up.  I think that Music Artists receive none

>*YUK*


>

>Just my .0000125 cents (Royalty payment, don't you know!)

>

>This has been such a fun thread.  And scarry too.  I don't even have a hint

>of a wish to write an Oracle Book now!  My hat's off to all of the hard

>working authors out there :)

>

>--Michael

>

>-----Original Message-----

>Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 6:15 PM

>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

>

>

>Well I think if we all pitch in a bit, and put out one heck of a book and

>convince Steven Spielberg to take it to the screen, yes we would be rolling

>in

>Do$$$$.

>Oracle from the ground up ! a thriller, starring in order of appearance:

>"The Goddess" ---- Rachel Carmichael

>"The Tuner" --- Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha

>"Remote" --- Ari Kaplan

>"Store Keeper" -- Ian Abramson

>..........

>

>and others, just imagine the movie it would be wicked!

>

>oops!

>Sorry I Just lost it

>

>Rachel Carmichael wrote:

>

> > let's see, I think Dad paid something on the order of $10K to publish 

>his

> > book (about 100 copies). Of course, it was a hard-cover edition.

> >

> > and editors don't come cheap.

> >

> > Alex -- how much money do you really think an author makes on a book???

> >

> > I'd figure that the average book (and technical books have to be updated

> > about every 18 months) takes about 500 hours to write (this is a number

> > Kevin Loney has come up with and I'm willing to believe him, given his

> > experience)

> >

> > So... as a consultant let's say I work cheap (in NY anyway) for $100/hr

> >

> > 500 hours over a 40 hour week = 12.5 weeks or about 3 months

> >

> > so.... 500*100 = $50,000  for 3 months, or $200,000 over a year

> >

> > THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL YOU MAKE ANYTHING LIKE THAT AS AN AUTHOR!!!


> >

> > Damn it, best-selling authors don't make that kind of money.

> >

> > Geez, wake up and smell the coffee, technical writing is NOT done to get

> > rich.

> >

> > >From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>

> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com

> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>

> > >Subject: RE: Serious Question (believe it or not)...

> > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 12:11:00 -0800

> > >

> > >I am sure that any of working DBA's have this money to put up front. I

> > >don't

> > >think that risk to invest in the book is more than in the stock market.

> > >Also

> > >what is the problem to hire editor (especially not technical). Should 

>not

> > >be

> > >too expencive. Of cource it is more work, but one can get much more

>money.

> > >

> > >Alex Hillman

> > >

> > >-----Original Message-----

> > >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 3:26 PM

> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

> > >

> > >

> > >self-publishing houses charge you to publish the book (yes, they do,

>that's

> > >how my father-in-law published his book)

> > >

> > >I also doubt that they give you much in the way of help in editing your

> > >book, so that if your English is not good (as the case of the author 

>that

> > >Jonathan is working with) you end up with an unreadable book.

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: "Hillman, Alex" <Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov>

> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com

> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>

> > > >Subject: RE: Serious Question (believe it or not)...

> > > >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 07:45:49 -0800

> > > >

> > > >I would one of self-publishing houses like Technion where you can get

>33%

> > > >of

> > > >sales.

> > > >If your book is any good it will sell in the same volume as with any

> > >other

> > > >publisher (not that they spend a lot of money for promotion any way).

> > > >

> > > >Alex Hillman

> > > >

> > > >-----Original Message-----

> > > >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:31 AM

> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >First would be to prepare and send a synopsis to the

> > > >'big name' oracle publishers - O'Reilly, Wrox and the

> > > >like..

> > > >

> > > >hth

> > > >connor

> > > >

> > > >--- Jim Hawkins <jhawkins_at_primary.net> wrote: > All,

> > > > >

> > > > > I am very interested in collaborating with others in

> > > > > the writing of an

> > > > > Oracle technical book (DBA subject matter).  I am

> > > > > interested in how those of

> > > > > you who have done this (ala Rachel), got started or

> > > > > made the right

> > > > > connections.  I do have a somewhat literary

> > > > > background, so I know I can do

> > > > > this.

> > > > >

> > > > > Jim

> > > > >

> > > > > Jim Hawkins

> > > > > Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator

> > > > > MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc.

> > > > > 600 Pearl Drive

> > > > > St. Louis, MO  633376

> > > > > 9636) 474-7832

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> > > > >

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