RE: Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...

From: Henry Poras <Henry.Poras_at_ctp.com>
Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 13:23:19 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00310074.20010525124222@fatcity.com>

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just reading 'Oracle 9i New Features: Summary' which I downloaded from OTN. One great line was "New features, tools and techniques are also provided to make what little an administrator has left to do a delight." <SPAN
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  size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Vergara, Michael (TEM)   [mailto:mvergara_at_guidant.com]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 1:29   PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:   Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...
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  class=590212716-25052001>I can remember as far back as version 7.3 where   Oracle was touting that
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  class=590212716-25052001>"you won't need a DBA for our new database".  It   hasn't happened yet,
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  class=590212716-25052001>has it?  Oh yes, it's easier, but we're still   here!
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  class=590212716-25052001>And besides, what were they offering in the cold   call?  Replacing your
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  class=590212716-25052001>DBAs with their DBAs.  At (probably) twice the   price.  Outsourcing Lives!
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  class=590212716-25052001>Just my $0.02 worth.
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  class=590212716-25052001>Mike
   
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: Gary Weber     [mailto:gweber_at_cji.com]Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:27     AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE:     Fire your DBA's you don't need them anymore...     <FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
    size=2>Very stupid thing to do by Oracle, considering the fact that many     Oracle purchasing decisions are made by Oracle DBAs. To shut us out like     that will most certainly have an effect on Oracle Sales. Hell, you don't     need me anymore? I'll switch political sides and jump the ship to IBM, or     <gasp> Microsoft...
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    size=2>Far as their "superior" i-dba team, I sure hope those are different     people from the ones you get on first line of Support...     <FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial
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    size=2>PS. Or maybe we should all become Oracle salesmen     (saleswomen)....
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    size=2>-----Original Message-----From: root_at_fatcity.com     [mailto:root_at_fatcity.com]On Behalf Of Bowes, ChrisSent:     Friday, May 25, 2001 12:02 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list     ORACLE-LSubject: Fire your DBA's you don't need them     anymore...
    My boss just received a cold call from Oracle     that he let me listen in on.  They have a new push on for their i-dba     support package.  For just a little more money (they did not define     little), "we will replace your dba's with our superior support team that     will monitor your database 24x7 and proactively eliminate problems.      This will allow you to redesign you office to offload these cumbersome DBA     tasks and allow your workers to do other things.  You will never have     another database problem."   I felt good when my boss indicated     that we had no base problems but based on this, I guess we will have to     become sqlserver DBAs or <gasp>  developers...        :)
    Ahh, Friday, wonderful Friday,  it seems     like you've been away all week...
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    size=2>Chris.Bowes_at_Kosa.com Received on Fri May 25 2001 - 15:23:19 CDT