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nah, Cooking 101 for DBAs would have to read something like
make sure you always have enough change for the vending machines.... days-old Twinkies are best
I saw that I was a spammer and nearly wet my pants laughing.....
>From: "Deshpande, Kirti" <kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
>Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 09:08:15 -0800
>
>According to a comment posted there, Rachel Carmichael is a spammer too !!
>
>Sure, Rachel "The Spammer Goddess" Carmichael, posts nothing but some junk
>recipes ....
>
>(How about 'Cooking 101 for DBAs to go with your 'junk' recipes, Racheal?
>Sounds like there will be a few takers ;)
>
>TGIF !!
>
>- Kirti
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hillman, Alex [SMTP:Alex.Hillman_at_usmint.treas.gov]
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:10 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
> >
> > What is the purpose of subscibing to Lazydba list at all?. I subscribed
> > sometime ago and in several months unsubscribed. There are only couple
>of
> > people who know what they are talking about and a lot of them on this
> > list.
> > Number of cluless questions tremendows etc. Again, my impressions from
> > about
> > a year ago. But I think nothing changed. However it would be intersting
>to
> > read selected lines from Henry's e-mails which Steve picked up and and
> > what
> > was main Steve's sin. Of cource mentioning his website in his e-mail it
>is
> > something uconsionable and unprovoked :-)
> > Why would anybody do it when they already have www.lazydba.com - I don't
> > understand it.
> >
> > Alex Hillman
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 11:11 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Yeah, amoung the complaints I saw against me where.
> >
> >
> > 1. I plugged my website (which I make no money, and provided for the
> > benefit for others)
> > 2. Two my emails were too long (I obviously spent too much time
> > answering)
> > 3. Someone would come back and there would be 30 emails from me
> > (Obviously
> > I answered too many questions)
> > 4. I would just say "i agree" at times (I guess backing up someone's
> > comment and basically saying I couldn't said it better and I would only
> > repeat his answer to strengthen it).
> >
> > This is all after I left from hearing about Henry's plot. Now someone
>on
> > this list has already posted someone on the board saying I am only
> > plugging
> > my site, yet I have answered around 30 questions in less than 3 days.
> > Granted I try to get people to look at my site so they may find
>something
> > to
> > help them. Shame on me.
> > The funniest thing is there is 1500 or so list members on the other
>list,
> > 30-50 of them post answers, 1450-1470 just post questions. I have yet
>to
> > see the 30-50 of the complain about the same issues or much of anything.
> >
> > People don't understand it takes time to answer these emails and we have
> > better things to do. We do this because we want to help people, with
>all
> > the barage of crap from people, it makes you want to just not bother.
> >
> > As such, my site will be unavailable due to it's helpful nature.
> >
> > "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy
>if
> > both are frozen."
> >
> > Christopher R. Spence
> > Oracle DBA
> > Fuelspot
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 10:17 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > I guess the lazy DBAs got tired of reading Oracle Internals. They just
> > want
> > simple answers. :)
> >
> > Richard Ji
> >
> > >>> carmichr_at_hotmail.com 05/25/01 07:15AM >>>
> > you're right -- Henry isn't the list owner here in any case.
> >
> > For those of you who want to discuss this, Henry set up a discussion
>forum
> >
> > on the lazydba site.
> >
> > AFAIK, Steve is still a member of Oracle-L :)
> >
> >
> > >From: Robertson Lee - lerobe <lerobe_at_acxiom.co.uk>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
> > >Date: Fri, 25 May 2001 02:16:06 -0800
> > >
> > >Erm... am I missing something but wasn't the original mail removing
>Steve
> > >Adams from the lazydba discussion list and not this one ??
> > >
> > >Cheers
> > >
> > >Lee
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: 25 May 2001 10:56
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >Dear Henry,
> > >
> > > Please reconsider this issue !!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > >I am sure there are many-many more who want to request not
> > >to remove Steve and would support my mail, but are afraid
> > >that other's mail-box would fill up by these request only..
> > > To be frank & honest, he is the only list member who
> > >has a folder in my outlook( I am not offending any-body
> > >else)........
> > > Seriously ... please dont' do this........
> > >
> > >Best Regards,
> > >Rajesh
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 9:26 AM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >i hope this thread is still alive.... and my reply makes it to the
> > >list...
> > >
> > >by removing Steve from the list , we all will miss the insight into
> > >oracle
> > >internals,
> > >which he provided , thru his answers and the links (plugs ? ) to his
> > >website..
> > >
> > >many threads would end when Steve provides his explanation/answer, this
> > >show
> > >
> > >the respect posters have for his knowledge or Oracle.
> > >
> > >please reconsider
> > >
> > >Regards
> > >Rahul
> > >
> > >
> > > > ----------
> > > > From: Suhen Pather[SMTP:Suhen.Pather_at_strandbags.com.au]
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 6:36 AM
> > > > To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
> > > > Subject: RE: Steve Adam's Removal
> > > >
> > > > Henry, List
> > > >
> > > > I second you on this one.
> > > > I respect Henry being the list owner, having authority to do as he
> > > > pleases.
> > > >
> > > > ORACLE -L is possibly the best Oracle list out there,and has brought
> > >so
> > > > many
> > > >
> > > > Oracle professionals together, but lets not lose our experts.
> > > >
> > > > Please reconsider the removal of Steve Adams from the list.
> > > >
> > > > He takes up lots of his time to answer performance related questions
> > > > posted by list members with precise actions to be taken and great
> > > > explanations.
> > > >
> > > > He is an invaluable member to the Oracle world and his expertise,
> > > > generosity
> > > > will
> > > > surely be missed if he removed.
> > > >
> > > > Kind Regards and pls reconsider
> > > > Suhen
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > List,
> > > >
> > > > While I respect Henry's authority as list owner to remove people
>from
> > >the
> > > > list, and the need to do so when people are breaking the rules, I
> > >would
> > > > like
> > > > to protest the removal of Steve Adams. He is one of the top experts
> > >in
> > > > Oracle internals in the world, and he was gracious enough to take
>time
> > >to
> > > > answer people's questions on the list.
> > > >
> > > > I am not sure what he ever did that was thought to be spamming,
>except
> > > > answer people's questions. He has a link to his website in his
> > >signature,
> > > > and often his answers were links to a place on his site where he had
> > > > already
> > > > answered that question. I don't see what's wrong with that, none of
> > >it
> > > > seems to violate the rules of the list.
> > > >
> > > > If it was a matter of one or two people complaining about Steve's
> > >posts,
> > > > perhaps the list should have been asked. I can only hope that the
> > > > overwhelming majority understood Steve's method of answering
>questions
> > >and
> > > > were not annoyed with it.
> > > >
> > > > The show now knows a lot less about Oracle Internal Services.
> > > >
> > > > Reed Sutton
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Henry O'Keeffe [mailto:mbzf96_at_dial.pipex.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 8:58 AM
> > > > To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
> > > > Subject: Re: Spamming the list
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I'm afraid, you'll actually have to leave the list Steve. Picking
> > >lines
> > > > from
> > > > private emails sent between us, and presenting them out of context
> > >isn't
> > > > something that most people would have expected from you. I'm sorry
> > >that
> > > > it's
> > > > had to come to this.
> > > >
> > > > Indeed, the show will go on.
> > > >
> > > > Goodbye.
> > > > Henry.
> > > >
> > > >
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