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Re:Am I too hard on the developper ?

From: Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 11:24:57 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.002B6C18.20010216110607@fatcity.com>

Thank me???? Trust me, I don't have anything to do with the days of the week :)

>From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: Re:Am I too hard on the developper ?
>Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 09:02:00 -0800
>
>Stephane,
>
> It's Friday, thank God & Rachel.
>
> Anyway, should one use the "alter table" or drop & rebuild method?
>Good
>question. Certainly "alter table" is easier, but then there is the
>possibility
>of fragmentation and chained blocks, but in development who really cares?
>Also,
>how many column(s) are they adding, what data types are they & how large
>are
>they? Most of the time I see developers wanting to do the drop/rebuild
>method
>so that the order of the fields when doing a describe matches the
>applications
>use of the columns. Big deal. I remember some time ago doing a PeopleSoft
>patch where they wanted to rebuild a many many rows table just to add a
>single
>character flag field. Again big deal, I just ran an alter table instead.
>Saved
>a ton of time and the application did not care one bit. Still running as
>we
>speak.
>
> In your case though, I'd push the PAIN back on the developers. If
>they want
>to rebuild the table they can redo the grants as well. Suprising how often
>they'll prefer the alter vs. rebuild.
>
>Dick Goulet
>
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>Author: =?iso-8859-1?q?paquette=20stephane?= <stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com>
>Date: 2/16/2001 8:05 AM
>
>Hi,
>
>I do not know if it's friday afternoon or what ?
>The developpers want me to regenerate the grants in
>the development environment because they're running a
>script that drops and recreates a new version of the
>tables.
>I asked them : Could you do an alter table instead ?
>
>The developpers : What ! they'are at least 10 new
>fields !
>
>I used to be a developper, I do not remember myself
>dropping and recreating everything each time I add a
>new field . Anyway in production, only the new stuff
>goes in.
>
>Any comments ?
>
>=====
>Stephane Paquette
>DBA Oracle
>stephane_paquette_at_yahoo.com
>
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