RE: Thanks and another book request

Yeah, but Rachel, think of the FAME! Didn't I hear you were opening for Billy Joel and Elton John in LA on Feb 6?

:-)

Yosi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2001 1:00 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Thanks and another book request
>
>
> Djordje,
>
> the $5 was for each book sold. not per hour.
>
> My rate (before the book) was more than the average.
> The $150/hour is really an average, I know people getting
> more than that....
> and they haven't written a book, or done lots of
> presentations etc. NY is a
> higher paying market.
>
> And in any case, even at $10/hour, it's still NOT worth
> spending the time
> writing instead of consulting.
>
> And the real question is, since I write in my limited,
> minimal spare time,
> what is the value per hour of THAT time? Time not spent with
> family and
> friends, or doing the things that feed my soul?
>
> Rachel
>
> >From: "djordjej" <djordjej_at_home.com>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: Re: Thanks and another book request
> >Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 23:45:21 -0800
> >
> >Hi Rachel,
> >
> >I definitively believe that the prime drive for writing a
> book must come
> >from the love to teach, to help other people and share some of the
> >experience and knowledge that you came to the hard way with
> others. And I
> >agree that one should not think of writing a book to make money.
> >
> >But for the math you did to be fair, I guess it should be
> mentioned that
> >having a name on a good book also helps to reach $150 per
> hour. I would
> >not
> >say that this is an average that a
> >senior/experienced/expert/knowledgeable/... DBA gets even in
> NY ? If the
> >name on the book can bring this number up by at least, say
> $10/hour, this
> >changes your math by at least $1600*10 = $16,000. Am I right in this
> >assumption?
> >
> >Djordje
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Sent: Friday, February 02, 2001 8:05 PM
> >
> >
> > > well, let's do the math.....
> > >
> > > let's say I get $5 for each book that is sold (I don't, and the
> >royalties
> > > change depending on if the book has sold at full price or from a
> >discount
> > > house) but the $5 makes the math easier
> > > (and it's less than minimum wage in the US!)
> > >
> > >
> > > let's round the numbers, and say that an independent DBA
> consultant can
> >earn
> > > $150/hr in New York, where I live. (That's an average,
> some make more,
> >some
> > > less)
> > >
> > > and 150/5 = 30 so I'd have to work 30 times as many
> hours writing books
> >as
> > > I would as a consultant to make the same amount of money
> > >
> > > Most personnel departments assume that there are 200
> workdays in a year
> > > (vacation, weekends and holidays excluded), and that a
> workday is 8
> >hours
> > > long. Yes, I know no DBA works a 40 hour week, this is
> just an example.
> > >
> > > so.... 200*8 = 1600 hours work in a year.
> > >
> > > 1600/500= 3.2 books a year and 1600*5=$8000 a year
> > >
> > > 1600*150=$240,000
> > >
> > > don't know about you, I'd rather be a consultant!
> > >
> > > I repeat -- you don't make money writing books, and if
> that is why you
> >are
> > > writing them, you'd be better off just consulting. Even
> if you write in
> >your
> > > "spare time", you lose -- I worked evenings, and all day
> all weekend
> > > writing. I didn't see my friends or family for the time I
> was writing.
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh, and since my name does show up when my messages post,
> so it's easy
> >to
> > > see how it is spelled....
> > >
> > > it's Rachel, not Rachael
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "orclbabu" <orclbabu_at_hotmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Thanks and another book request
> > > >Date: Fri, 02 Feb 2001 12:32:11 -0800
> > > >
> > > >Rachael
> > > >
> > > > > consultant for that number of hours.... Not
> profitable to write one.
> > > >
> > > >The very fact that you often repeat this in response to
> mails that
> >refer
> >to
> > > >your books, makes us think otherwise $$$
> > > >
> > > >;-)
> > > >
> > > >babu
> > > >
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