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From: Richard Ji <richard_at_letsplay.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 12:01:03 -0400
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Anything you can tell me. I've never used OPS and plan to attend a class in November.

What version of Oracle did you use?
[Richard Ji] I used 7.3.4 OPS on Digital Unix 4.0d on a Dec cluster.

Does it work as expected?
[Richard Ji] Yes, it worked pretty well for us.

What type of application is it?
[Richard Ji] It's a datawarehouse for a global equity system for a big
financial insitute.

What sort of transaction volumes do you have?
[Richard Ji] Nightly batch load of 500MB data.

How many users?
[Richard Ji] 150

How many instances are you running on how many nodes?
[Richard Ji] Four instance on two nodes. Two instance belongs to a stage
database and two instance for the end user database. Replication between the two.

How is locking between instances handled?
[Richard Ji] By logically separate the users. One node dedicated for query
the other for updateds.

Have you seen performance degradation because of lock management between instances or any other inter-instance communication?
[Richard Ji] Nope.

 How is logging handled[Richard Ji] Each instance has it's own thread of redo log on distributed raw devices.

 Are there separate logs for each instance?
[Richard Ji] Yes

 Have you succesfully tested backup and recovery?
[Richard Ji] Yes, using EBU and Legato.

 Are there any administration things to watch out for that are introduced by OPS?
[Richard Ji] Yes, a lots both on the OS side and Oracle side.

How much application work is involved to switch instances in the event of a failure?
[Richard Ji] Depends on how you have it setup. In our case it's very small.

 Is anything lost when a node fails?
[Richard Ji] For committed transactions no, the surviving node will recover
the failed node's redo log.

Have you encountered situations where a node fails but the applications haven't detected the failure?
[Richard Ji] No I haven't encountered that situation yet.

TIA   "Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)" <MATT.ADAMS_at_APPL.GE.COM> wrote:

Yes. What would you like to know?



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Has anyone succesfully used OPS in a mission critical production environment? I'd like to hear about it.


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