Re: METALINK and OWS

Being senior means never having to change a user's forgotten database password or dealing with level 1 help desk calls.

Of course being senior also means that occasionally you have the pleasure of going before the CIO and being handed your head because the production financials database has been down for a whole day due to hardware failure (totally beyond your control, but hey, he needs someone to yell at...damn Sun A5000 FCAL storage arrays).

11 years starting with version 5.

Speaking of new playthings, anyone doing anything interesting with iFS yet?

Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph S. Testa <teci_at_oracle-dba.com> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com> Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 10:44 PM
Subject: Re: METALINK and OWS

> I haev to agree w/Steve, senior means having to look up the syntax(damn,
> why does there have to be a alter system AND an alter database?????)
> but being senior lets you usually play with the kewl stuff and live on
> the bleeding edge(8.1.6 here !!).
>
> Rachel, i'm not that far behind you with 8 years exp :)
>
> joe
> Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> >
> > Now STOP THAT! I am not all that senior, except perhaps in age. I've
only
> > been doing this about 10 years.
> >
> > As for remembering syntax.... it changes from version to version, right?
So
> > I look it up... besides, if I have now shoved in the information from
the
> > data internals class, I had to shove OUT something... syntax goes, I
know
> > where to find it...
> >
> > My point was that people are telling me that they are junior and
mid-level
> > DBAs when they can't answer simple questions (like.... if a query is
going
> > to return 30% of the rows in a table, how would you tune it? [Answer
I
> > got: hint it to use an index. EHHHHH! Next contestant please!])
> >
> > And I have learned, if the letters OCP are at the very top of the
resume....
> > they usually don't know what they are doing.
> >
> > Rachel
> > >
> > > > ...clarify on this 'what is a junior Dba ,senior DBA'
> > >
> > >It's very subjective... compared to Rachel most of us are juniors :-)
> > >
> >
> > >Oh, Hi Rachel... On a similar note, I hate it when my "junior" recalls
> > >exact
> > >syntax while I'm still looking it up in the manual. :-( Oh, but being
a
> > >senior means you're looking it up just to make sure nothing's changed
> > >between versions. Being the senior means you probably remember the
syntax
> > >but you take extra precautions based on your vast experience. Being the
> > >senior means you understand the mechanics of the Oracle engine and
don't
> > >have time to be bothered with small things like remembering exact
syntax.
> > >Being the senior means you're preoccupied with larger issues like the
> > >business needs, the architecture, Oracle futures, EOUG, etc. Yeah,
that's
> > >the ticket. Being the senior has nothing to do with Alzheimer's.
> > >
> > >
> > >Steve Orr
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Pierce
> > >Sent: Friday, June 09, 2000 12:18 PM
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Date sent: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:02:29 -0800
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > ><ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Send reply to: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Can some one please clarify on this 'what is a junior Dba ,senior
DBA' ,
> > >I
> > > > mean
> > > > in what way does their job profile,job responsibility differ!
> > >
> > >Good idea. My guess is that generally "junior" means "getting
> > >started", and "senior" means "has more knowledge and experience".
> > >"junior" also implies "needs supervision", and "senior" implies
> > >"works independently to resolve issues most/all of the time".
> > >
> > >However, Rachel's main point appears to be that there are a lot of
> > >people "adjusting the factual information" (lying) on their resumes
> > >and *claiming* to be junior dbas when they submit dba jobs
> > >applications who don't actually meet the educational and functional
> > >requirements of *being* a junior dba.
> > >
> > >regards,
> > >ep
> > >
> > >--
> > >Author: Eric D. Pierce
> > > INET: PierceED_at_csus.edu
> > >
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> > >
> >
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