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Re[2]:RE: Work vs marriage

From: <dgoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 18:13:10 -0400
Message-Id: <10515.107485@fatcity.com>


Boy do I wish that were true. Regrettably he would have been my boss three years ago had I made the switch. He was in here looking to fill a junior DBA slot 6 months ago. Currently I believe he's working for a local body shop.

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Subject: Re:RE: Work vs marriage
Author: Jared Still <jkstill_at_bcbso.com>
Date: 6/1/00 12:45 PM

On Wed, 31 May 2000 dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:

> worked there lasted only about 18 months. One took a year break flipping
> burgers at McD's to get his head and marriage back on track.
>

Are you sure you didn't just see that in a movie? ;)

Jared

> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: "Shockey; David" <DShockey_at_jwrinc.com>
> Date: 5/31/00 1:14 PM
>
> I'm with you Walt! If they ever tell me that I have to start putting in
> more than an eight-hour day or work weekends then I'll tell them they can
> keep their $200K and hand them the keys to the company Lexus.
>
> Just kidding of course. I've paid my dues on more than one big project. I
> keep it around forty hours a week now. The wife and kids are better for it
> and when they are happy I am happy.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:23 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I purposely seek out employment that lets me spend more time with my family
> and my fun pursuits, i.e. soaring, fly fishing, etc.
>
> I enjoy DBA work, but I enjoy my off time more. I live where I want to live,
> and while my salary is probably half of what most people make on this list,
> I spend most of my evenings and weekends where I want to be: with my family,
> or in the sky, or on the river.
>
> I'll leave the 80-hour weeks to you workaholics. Life's too short for that
> crap, IMHO.
>
> --Walt Weaver
> Bozeman, Montana, USA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:18 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> I have a story like this to tell;
>
> Some time ago I had to work during the weekend for some ^#$&* hacked our
> computers.
> On Wednesday I took the wife and kids to the circus and some
> hamburger-restaurant. They asked me 'when's the next weekend you have to
> work?'
> The guy next to me didn't do this, and his family tells him 'not to work
> that much'
>
> I think we all know that if everything ok at home, work goes well too....
> (and v.v.)
>
> Eric Lansu
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2000 22:47
>
>
> > Dick,
> > I want to work for you...
> >
> > Tom Harleman
> > 11080 Willowmere Dr.
> > Indianapolis, IN 46280
> > 317-844-2884 Home
> > 317-843-9122 Home Office
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:38 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Tony,
> >
> > Many a year ago I too came home to a similar situation, after 48 hours
> > on
> > the flight line, coaxing a number of KC-135's & an SR-71 into the air.
> > After
> > getting some sleep, listening to the wife complain about "how much of a
> > work-aholic" I was & reading a book to my three daughters before they went
> > to
> > bed, I found what I was missing. Since then, work is whatever time I
> spend
> > at
> > work or if I wake up early in the morning (of my own volition, not the
> alarm
> > clock). And I take my wife out at least once a week. Marriage has never
> > been
> > better. This weekend we collectively spend the entire three days out on
> the
> > yard getting her flowers all planted, trimmed, etc... Boy does my back
> > ache!!
> >
> > In short and in my opinion, If you aren't spending at least as much
> time
> > working on your marriage as you spend at work, you really can't complain
> at
> > the
> > results!! That goes for ALL of us, guys & gals.
> >
> > Dick Goulet, MSgt, USAF (retired)
> > Senior Oracle DBA
> > Vicor Corporation
> >
> > ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> > Author: Sherwin Anthony Sequeira <sherwin_at_sequeira.ezesurf.co.uk>
> > Date: 5/26/00 8:04 PM
> >
> > > i hear u both, i'm supposed to leave at 3P on friday, at 2:50P,
> developer
> > > emails me about out of space on a PK index(partitioned), so i think no
> > > biggie, i dont have DBA privs(its a production db and i dont do
> > production),
> > > so i start digging and realize its a range partitioned index and the
> > ranges
> > > are WAY OFF. so i spend this evening, figuring out the correct ranges
> and
> > > rebuild the index.
> > >
> > > bahhhhh
> > >
> > >
> > > joe
> >
> > Joe,
> >
> > Please accept my commiserations. Users, don't you love them?
> >
> > I spent this evening driving 3 hours (70 miles) through pelting
> rain
> > and
> > Bank holiday traffic, coming home to a loving daughter and a not so loving
> > wife.
> >
> > I spent the day demonstrating Oracle's point in time recovery to a
> > customer. Unfortunately the redo logs were screwed, with no backups! So
> > much
> > for the demo.
> >
> > But, I spent the evening playing snooker and drinking Honey Dew.
> > Now
> > catching up with the list.
> >
> > I bet you still enjoy it though eh!
> >
> > Regards.
> >
> > Tony
> > --
> > S. A. Sequeira
> >
> > --
> > Author: Sherwin Anthony Sequeira
> > INET: sherwin_at_sequeira.ezesurf.co.uk
> >
>
>
> --
> Author: Eric Lansu
> INET: eric.lansu_at_quicknet.nl
>
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> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I'm with you Walt!&nbsp; If they ever tell me that I have to
> start putting in more than an eight-hour day or work weekends then I'll tell
> them they can keep their $200K and hand them the keys to the company
> Lexus.&nbsp; </FONT></P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Just kidding of course.&nbsp; I've paid my dues on more than
one
> big project.&nbsp; I keep it around forty hours a week now.&nbsp; The wife and
> kids are better for it and when they are happy I am happy.</FONT></P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Walt Weaver [<A
> HREF="mailto:wweaver_at_rightnowtech.com">mailto:wweaver_at_rightnowtech.com</A>]</F
ON
> T>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 11:23 AM</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: Work vs marriage</FONT>
> </P>
> <BR>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I purposely seek out employment that lets me spend more time
> with my family</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>and my fun pursuits, i.e. soaring, fly fishing, etc.</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I enjoy DBA work, but I enjoy my off time more. I live where I
> want to live,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>and while my salary is probably half of what most people make
> on this list,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>I spend most of my evenings and weekends where I want to be:
> with my family,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>or in the sky, or on the river.</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I'll leave the 80-hour weeks to you workaholics. Life's too
> short for that</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>crap, IMHO.</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>--Walt Weaver</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp; Bozeman, Montana, USA</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 6:18 AM</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
> </P>
> <BR>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I have a story like this to tell;</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Some time ago I had to work during the weekend for some
> ^#$&amp;* hacked our</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>computers.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>On Wednesday I took the wife and kids to the circus and
> some</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>hamburger-restaurant. They asked me 'when's the next weekend
> you have to</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>work?'</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>The guy next to me didn't do this, and his family tells him
> 'not to work</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>that much'</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>I think we all know that if everything ok at home, work goes
> well too....</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>(and v.v.)</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Eric Lansu</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>----- Original Message -----</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: &quot;Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L&quot;
> &lt;ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Tuesday, 30 May 2000 22:47</FONT>
> </P>
> <BR>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Dick,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I want to work for you...</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Tom Harleman</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; 11080 Willowmere Dr.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Indianapolis, IN 46280</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; 317-844-2884 Home</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; 317-843-9122 Home Office</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; dgoulet_at_vicr.com</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 10:38 AM</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Tony,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Many a year ago I too came home
to
> a similar situation, after 48 hours</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; on</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; the flight line, coaxing a number of KC-135's &amp; an
> SR-71 into the air.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; After</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; getting some sleep, listening to the wife complain about
> &quot;how much of a</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; work-aholic&quot; I was &amp; reading a book to my three
> daughters before they went</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; to</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; bed, I found what I was missing.&nbsp; Since then, work
is
> whatever time I</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>spend</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; at</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; work or if I wake up early in the morning (of my own
> volition, not the</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>alarm</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; clock).&nbsp; And I take my wife out at least once a
> week.&nbsp; Marriage has never</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; been</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; better.&nbsp; This weekend we collectively spend the
> entire three days out on</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>the</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; yard getting her flowers all planted, trimmed,
> etc...&nbsp; Boy does my back</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; ache!!</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; In short and in my opinion, If
you
> aren't spending at least as much</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>time</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; working on your marriage as you spend at work, you
really
> can't complain</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>at</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; the</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; results!!&nbsp; That goes for ALL of us, guys &amp;
> gals.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Dick Goulet, MSgt, USAF (retired)</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Senior Oracle DBA</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Vicor Corporation</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; ____________________Reply
> Separator____________________</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Author: Sherwin Anthony Sequeira
> &lt;sherwin_at_sequeira.ezesurf.co.uk&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5/26/00 8:04
> PM</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; i hear u both, i'm supposed to leave at 3P on
friday,
> at 2:50P,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>developer</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; emails me about out of space on a PK
> index(partitioned), so i think no</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; biggie, i dont have DBA privs(its a production db
and
> i dont do</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; production),</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; so i start digging and realize its a range
> partitioned index and the</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; ranges</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; are WAY OFF.&nbsp; so i spend this evening,
figuring
> out the correct ranges</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>and</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; rebuild the index.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; bahhhhh</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; joe</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Joe,</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Please
> accept my commiserations.&nbsp; Users, don't you love them?</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I spent
> this evening driving 3 hours (70 miles) through pelting</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>rain</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; and</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Bank holiday traffic, coming home to a loving daughter
and
> a not so loving</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; wife.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I spent
> the day demonstrating Oracle's point in time recovery to a</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; customer.&nbsp; Unfortunately the redo logs were
screwed,
> with no backups!&nbsp; So</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; much</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; for the demo.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But, I
> spent the evening playing snooker and drinking Honey Dew.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Now</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; catching up with the list.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I bet
you
> still enjoy it though eh!</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
> Regards.</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Tony</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; --</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; S. A. Sequeira</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; --</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Author: Sherwin Anthony Sequeira</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; INET: sherwin_at_sequeira.ezesurf.co.uk</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
> </P>
> <BR>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>--</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Author: Eric Lansu</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp; INET: eric.lansu_at_quicknet.nl</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Fat City Network Services&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -- (858)
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> <P><FONT SIZE=2>-- </FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>Author: Walt Weaver</FONT>
> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp; INET: wweaver_at_rightnowtech.com</FONT>
> </P>
>
> <P><FONT SIZE=2>Fat City Network Services&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; -- (858)
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