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RE: Here we go again...OCP

From: Bowes, Chris <Chris.Bowes_at_kosa.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:07:29 -0400
Message-Id: <10481.104422@fatcity.com>


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Well, today is a perfect day to beat it some more. After all, it is still identifiable... Unfortunately, I have to agree with your assessment. A couple years back I was an ear to a debate amongst some DBA's. One individual claimed that you could recover a base completely with an export and archived log files. He didn't mean restore the base to working order, he meant up to and including the last transaction. Run the import, apply the log files. After all the SCN's would be different (no I am *NOT* making this up). He was OCP. It may look nice, but when framed, makes a better cup coaster than a measure of what you know.

--Chris
Chris.Bowes_at_Kosa.com

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From: Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com [mailto:Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 10:11 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Here we go again...OCP

Hello all, I hate to bring up a topic that's been beaten to death but here goes.

I passed OCP exam on Backup and Recovery this morning. I feel that I understand
the do's and dont's of restore fairly well. However I've never had to do it in a
catastrophic situation. I do not know very much about RMAN. however I STILL
PASSED. This exam was by no means measuring my ability to restore a completely
hosed database.

I am wondering now about what OCP is really good for then. I do not have a bachelor's degree so I want to complete OCP anyway. It will make job hunting in
Florida with less than one year experience as a DBA a bit easier. Does anyone
else feel that this certification is worthless?

Thanks
Lisa

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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Well, today is a perfect day to beat it some =
more.&nbsp; After all, it is still identifiable...&nbsp; Unfortunately, = I have to agree with your assessment.&nbsp; A couple years back I was = an ear to a debate amongst some DBA's.&nbsp; One individual claimed = that you could recover a base completely with an export and archived = log files.&nbsp; He didn't mean restore the base to working order, he = meant up to and including the last transaction.&nbsp; Run the import, = apply the log files.&nbsp; After all the SCN's would be different (no I = am *NOT* making this up).&nbsp; He was OCP.&nbsp; It may look nice, but = when framed, makes a better cup coaster than a measure of what you = know.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>--Chris</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Chris.Bowes_at_Kosa.com</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com">mailto:Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com</A>]</F= ONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 10:11 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Here we go again...OCP</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Hello all, I hate to bring up a topic that's been =
beaten to death but here goes.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I passed OCP exam on Backup and Recovery this =
morning.&nbsp; I feel that I understand</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>the do's and dont's of restore fairly well. However =
I've never had to do it in a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>catastrophic situation.&nbsp; I do not know very =
much about RMAN.&nbsp; however I STILL</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>PASSED.&nbsp; This exam was by no means measuring my =
ability to restore a completely</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>hosed database.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I am wondering now about what OCP is really good for =
then.&nbsp; I do not have a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>bachelor's degree so I want to complete OCP =
anyway.&nbsp; It will make job hunting in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Florida with less than one year experience as a DBA =
a bit easier.&nbsp; Does anyone</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>else feel that this certification is =
worthless?</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Lisa</FONT>
</P>
<BR>
<BR>
<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Author: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&nbsp; INET: Lisa_Koivu_at_gelco.com</FONT>
</P>

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