Path: text.usenetserver.com!out02a.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!in04.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!news.n-ix.net!newsout01.versatel.de!news.versatel.de!mauzi.home!news From: Stefan Nobis Newsgroups: comp.databases.theory Subject: Re: What is the logic of storing XML in a Database? Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:57:18 +0200 Organization: ESN - EDV-Beratung, Sicherheit, Netzbetreuung Lines: 22 Message-ID: <87tzw236gh.fsf@snobis.de> References: <1174947342.905208.135110@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1175008255.462166.216200@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1175016883.695931.244910@e65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> <1175023534.762441.188210@y66g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <1175026530.404926.320040@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1175027997.809940.180570@b75g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1175107181.975254.157840@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1175126218.815510.291840@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com> <1175179052.030475.159500@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1175181906.888162.123130@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1175183915.525024.58820@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> <1175261626.730709.321260@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stefan@snobis.de NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.135.146.0 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: news01.versatel.de 1175281681 2217 83.135.146.0 (30 Mar 2007 19:08:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@versatel.de NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:08:01 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/22.0.95 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+FrnWSgYJkztRd8bCC24pC1MJc8= Xref: usenetserver.com comp.databases.theory:163968 X-Received-Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 14:08:02 EST (text.usenetserver.com) "Daniel" writes: > In some sense, avoiding having to solve this problem is the entire > reason for XML. No, XML does in no way address the real problem: documentation and semantics. For example the problem Bernard Peek described was not really solved by using XML but by documentation and clear semantics. XML is no help here, because people are not *forced* to define a schema neither to write documentation. If you have a XML document without schema and documentation or even with (a complex) schema but without documentations (so you have no or little ideas about semantics) you are just as lost as with every (undocumented) binary format. XML is no real help here. And for the records: There are binary standards like RFC 1014 (XDR). -- Stefan.