Path: news.f.de.plusline.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!feed118.news.tele.dk!postnews.google.com!i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Marshall" Newsgroups: comp.databases.theory Subject: Re: Mapping arbitrary number of attributes to DB Date: 26 Oct 2006 10:29:36 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 31 Message-ID: <1161883776.554594.90820@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <453967a2$0$19667$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1161465441.723954.203100@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <453d126a$0$19727$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1161636885.535467.304030@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <453d522f$0$19658$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <453e54fc$0$19645$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <8zx%g.17928$OE1.3219@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.24.89.20 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1161883782 16625 127.0.0.1 (26 Oct 2006 17:29:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 17:29:42 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.7) Gecko/20060909 Firefox/1.5.0.7,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=172.24.89.20; posting-account=s2xCFw0AAAD2mIwYYHAqjdsecwG0axmW Xref: news.f.de.plusline.net comp.databases.theory:39705 On Oct 26, 7:31 am, Bob Badour wrote: > > > I believe the problem is the cost of up front modeling. > As I stated clearly, you were begging the question. You invented an up > front modelling cost that doesn't necessarily even exist and then > alerted us to this 'problem'. > [...] > You assumed a non-existent large up-front 'modelling cost' to prove a > large up-front 'modelling cost'. Wait, are you saying that modelling is free? I want to make sure I understand what you are saying. It *sounds* as if you are saying that, after gathering requirements, turning those requirements into a relational data model (example: SQL CREATE TABLE statements) costs less than epsilon. My experience is that such process usually involves lots of wailing and gnashing of teeth. But perhaps it would make sense to attribute that effort to extended requirements gathering? Not sure I follow. The idea that there is a cost to figuring out the right schema seems reasonable to me. It is my experience that the cost is vastly outweighed by the benefits almost all the time, but I'd still say there was an associated cost. Marshall