Path: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu!spool.maxwell.syr.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews.google.com!y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "topmind" Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.databases.theory Subject: Re: What databases have taught me Date: 23 Jun 2006 08:53:00 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: <1151077980.556282.238440@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> References: <1151026488.310207.201890@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.120.226.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1151077985 31709 127.0.0.1 (23 Jun 2006 15:53:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:53:05 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <1151026488.310207.201890@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 4-ISA1 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.120.226.1; posting-account=s2SMxwwAAADq5QNoEfa1s_3moAPE7mxj Xref: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu comp.object:140810 comp.databases.theory:42150 As some are pointing out now, OOP designs to not have to be hierarchical. However, outside of hierarchies, OO tends to lose its selling point. It is just a bunch of nodes (objects) with pointers to link them up, a big graph. Relational offers the chance to bring discipline to relationships. It may not be perfect, but better than dealing with raw graphs. Further, there is still plenty of room for the Big-Iron view of RDBMS to change, adapt, and branch out. We have jillions of OOP and procedural languages, but only one production relational language (SQL) with any decent backing, for example. It is time for a relational renaissance. Perhaps it won't fully deliver on its promises either, but billions of $ chased other fads and overdid them for the heck of it. What is one more? There may not be any other path to betterment besides experimentation. -T-