Path: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu!spool.maxwell.syr.edu!drn.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-10!sn-xit-06!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Gene Wirchenko Newsgroups: comp.databases.theory Subject: Re: Argument for 1NF by counter-example Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2004 08:43:41 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: Reply-To: genew@mail.ocis.net References: <4Psfd.318590$3l3.158105@attbi_s03> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 30 Xref: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu comp.databases.theory:27448 "Marshall Spight" wrote: >"Kenneth Downs" wrote in message news:mijllc.ma3.ln@mercury.downsfam.net... >> >> Decline of educational standards, entitlement mentality, failure of >> leadership, take your pick. > >I'm always intrigued when people speak of a "decline." Do >we have any ***non-anecdotal*** evidence to suggest there >is such a decline? > >The reason I am not interested in anecdotal evidence is >because it's clear to me that human nature tends us >in the direction of forgetting our own faults but being >painfully aware of the faults of the generation that >comes after us. Thus, an *apparent* decline is a fixed >part of the human condition. You can finds quotes >back through the ages on the decline of young people. You can also find declines. For example, where is the Roman Empire? Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: I have preferences. You have biases. He/She has prejudices.