Path: newssvr20.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01a.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.netins.net!not-for-mail From: "Dawn M. Wolthuis" Newsgroups: comp.databases.theory Subject: Re: c.d.theory glossary - proposed preamble Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2004 22:16:10 -0500 Organization: netINS InterNetNews site Lines: 25 Message-ID: References: <407edfea$0$562$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1pidnW7zDqkRMRzdRVn-uw@comcast.com> <40826a52$0$570$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <34519632.0404181718.212a7c55@posting.google.com> <34519632.0404230950.257ba452@posting.google.com> <4089a3c8$0$568$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.120.93.7 X-Trace: news.netins.net 1082776591 14809 199.120.93.7 (24 Apr 2004 03:16:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@netins.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2004 03:16:31 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Xref: newssvr20.news.prodigy.com comp.databases.theory:25885 "Senny" wrote in message news:kmiic.1409$17.168741@news1.epix.net... > Wat??? Ik begrijp niet. Ik ken niet Lakatos, von Bertalanffy, Barthes, > en Canetti. I wonder if I would understand your post better in Dutch. Nee. Ik denk 't niet. (I don't know if that is correct Dutch-- I'm third generation) I think its just a mood and we can help by jumpstarting the vocabulary effort again. It shouldn't be too hard to get a primary definition for relation, for example, even if we have to have some secondary versions too. I just re-read an early Codd paper and he really does start with a pretty standard mathematical definition of a relation. It gets expanded/altered/corrupted over time to get to where it seems to be today. So, if we start with what a typical relational theory definition would be and then have "mathematical relation" as a standard mathematical def, we might get on a roll. Given I'm not exactly a relational theorist, I'll yield the floor to someone with more of a clue. Maybe start a separate thread for each word we define, with subject "Glossary - Relation" for example -- just a thought. cheers! --dawn