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From: "Mikito Harakiri" <mikharakiri@iahu.com>
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Subject: Re: Codd provided appropriate mathematics ... (was Re: Relational and MV (response to "foundations of relational theory"))
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size=3D2>Here is unorthodox =
view. I queried=20
Mathworld for "Relation" and fidn't find any. Hence the conclusion: =
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Relation in math!"</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>"Tom Hester" &lt;<A=20
  href=3D"mailto:$$tom@metadata.com">$$tom@metadata.com</A>&gt; wrote in =
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>No, the relational model is based on =
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  of relation in symbolic logic.&nbsp; The interpretation of a relation =
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  required to be 1st order function free, resulting in a 1NF model; but =
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  no requirement that relations be 1NF for a database to be relational; =
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  there has been a great deal of relational database theory developed =
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  non-1NF (that is non first order function free) models.&nbsp;&nbsp; I =
simply=20
  gave a single reference to a single article.&nbsp; There are many=20
  books...</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>This is supposed to be a theoretical =
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  but it seems to me that the relational bigots are incredibly ignorant =
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