Path: news.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed.news2me.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!syros.belnet.be!naxos.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.uia.ac.be!not-for-mail From: hidders@REMOVE.THIS.uia.ua.ac.be (Jan Hidders) Newsgroups: comp.databases.theory Subject: Re: which softeware can create database? Followup-To: comp.databases.theory Date: 11 Nov 2002 22:30:13 +0100 Organization: University of Antwerp Lines: 49 Message-ID: <3dd02165$1@news.uia.ac.be> References: <3dcfc379$1@news.uia.ac.be> Reply-To: hidders@uia.ua.ac.be (Jan Hidders) NNTP-Posting-Host: hnets.uia.ac.be X-Trace: naxos.belnet.be 1037050215 14887 143.169.254.1 (11 Nov 2002 21:30:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@belnet.be NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:30:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Newsreader: trn 4.0-test76 (Apr 2, 2001) Originator: hidders@hcoss.uia.ac.be (Jan Hidders) X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: hmacs.uia.ac.be X-Original-Trace: 11 Nov 2002 22:30:13 +0100, hmacs.uia.ac.be Xref: newsfeed1.easynews.com comp.databases.theory:23579 X-Received-Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 14:30:02 MST (news.easynews.com) Bob Badour wrote: >"Jan Hidders" wrote in message >news:3dcfc379$1@news.uia.ac.be... >> Bob Badour wrote: >> >"Jan Hidders" wrote in message >> >news:3dcdf5e2$1@news.uia.ac.be... >> >> Bob Badour wrote: >> >> >"Jan Hidders" wrote in message >> >> >news:3dcc2530$1@news.uia.ac.be... >> >> >> >> >How is that possible if publishing in peer reviewed journals would have >> >created "a wider acceptance of the specific use of certain terms in the >> >scientific community and with that in the database community at large" ? >> >> It is what gains you the respect of the scientific community. The more you >> publish that way the more political clout you have. > >I could not disagree more. I work in that community and probably know it better than you do. >> The question whether SQL defines the term "relational" >> is meaningless because words don't define themselves, they are defined by >> people and how they use them. > >In this case, the word was defined by Ted Codd. What does the database >research community use to refer to a database management system based on >relations as suggested by Codd's 1970 paper? Something similar to the words you now used. >> >> >BTW, is SIGMOD peer-reviewed ? >> >> >> >> I presume you mean SIGMOD record? Some parts of it. >> >> >> >> >http://citeseer.nj.nec.com/darwen95third.html >> >> >> >> Is that all you could find? Here, let me help you a little: >> > >> >No, I just grabbed the first one I found. >> >> And failed. That was not in the peer-reviewed part. > >And failed at what? Finding a peer-reviewed publication of Date. -- Jan Hidders