Path: news.easynews.com!easynews!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!feeder.qis.net!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: jraustin1@hotmail.com (James) Newsgroups: comp.databases.theory Subject: Re: What are the limits to the usefulness of normalization? Date: 31 Dec 2001 21:20:14 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 26 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.172.146.99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1009862415 16861 127.0.0.1 (1 Jan 2002 05:20:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Jan 2002 05:20:15 GMT Xref: easynews comp.databases.theory:19381 X-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Jan 2002 02:26:19 MST (news.easynews.com) > Oh dear, Dwaun! Translation: You are a close significant of mine. > I apologize for not following this newsgroup as much as I would like. I see > that all of the previous answers you received to your question were not only > incorrect but dangerously incorrect. Translation: I look damn good in the mirror and you are lucky to have my presense. > Sadly, vendors have (so far) failed to provide adequate independence between > the logical model and physical layout of the data, and few practitioners > know or can appreciate the distinction between the conceptual and logical > levels of discourse. Subsequently, both vendors and practitioners frequently > blame normalization for their own failings. Translation: I could do it better if I wanted to but it is easier to look down my nose and also you and others are dumb. > I would direct you to "C. J. Date, _Relational Database Writings 1991-1994_, > I would also direct you to Fabian Pascal's latest book _Practical Issues in Translation: Here are some books that I wrote for dummies like you because there is no way you understood what the heck I just explained to you. All kidding aside, Bob's tirade was surgically correct with respect to rdbs. See www.xdb1.com/Normalization.asp for equivalent from an oodb's point-of-view.