Path: news.f.de.plusline.net!news.ccowzb.de!news1.dtag.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.glorb.com!newsfeed2.telusplanet.net!newsfeed.telus.net!edtnps84.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Hans Forbrich Subject: Re: Question about Oracle Developer Application and Application Server Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.tools,comp.databases.oracle.server Followup-To: comp.databases.oracle.tools References: <1091799905.427563@yasure> <1091856344.677929@yasure> <_BaRc.45112$hw6.36050@edtnps84> Lines: 41 User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Message-ID: <3SqRc.49551$hw6.4918@edtnps84> Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 14:34:39 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 161.184.143.86 X-Trace: edtnps84 1091975679 161.184.143.86 (Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:34:39 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 08:34:39 MDT Xref: news.f.de.plusline.net comp.databases.oracle.tools:29496 comp.databases.oracle.server:135137 Krist wrote: > Hi Daniel/Hans, > >> You _may_ need to purchase the IAS Java Edition to legally deploy >> standalone. > Is IAS Java Edition enough ?? > I read in oracle website, the features : 'Oracle Application Server > Reports Services' and 'Oracle Application Server Forms Services' ONLY > available in Enterprise Edition. > > Thank you, > Krist > My take is "NO, IAS Java Edition is not enough for a complete and legal config". (If I am wrong, I'd appreciate proof using links/pointers.) But you might be able to use Java Edition to lower your total cost. If you look at the diagram on page 14 of http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/forms/pdf/forms904TechnicalOverview.pdf you will see that Forms Services consists of a http server, a servlet and the forms 'runtime' f90web engine. So technically you 'only' need the the f90web engine and a J2EE Container servlet engine an http server and an access path between the http server and the servlet engine. Theoretically Oracle App Server Java Edition (AS-JE) provides the http server, the access path (mod_oc4j) and the J2EE container (OC4J). Therefore the only thing you need to find is a f90web Forms runtime server. AFAIK, f90web is only bundled in the Forms portion of Developer Suite and in the App Server Enterprise Edition (AS-EE). So if I wanted a legal minimum-price config in a multi-server environment, I would investigate the CPU-based mix of Oracle AS-EE for the back-end Forms 'server' and Oracle AS-JE for access necessary for my load. /Hans