Path: news.easynews.com!core-easynews!newsfeed1.easynews.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!skynet.be!skynet.be!213.51.129.3.MISMATCH!newshub1.home.nl!home.nl!not-for-mail From: Frank Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.misc,comp.databases.oracle.tools,comp.lang.java.databases,comp.lang.java.misc Subject: Re: Oracle Forms VS Java Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 19:35:21 +0200 Organization: @Home Benelux Lines: 78 Message-ID: <3EE0D0D9.3040106@netscape.net> References: <1543a3e7.0305300637.67d9c44a@posting.google.com> <8mQBa.5012$pu4.878@news1.east.cox.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc28855-a.hnglo1.ov.home.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl 1054920711 942 217.121.193.81 (6 Jun 2003 17:31:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 17:31:51 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030208 Netscape/7.02 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Xref: core-easynews comp.databases.oracle.misc:98454 comp.databases.oracle.tools:59387 comp.lang.java.databases:44616 comp.lang.java.misc:7943 X-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2003 10:31:08 MST (news.easynews.com) Ryan wrote: > "Michael Kuznetsov" wrote in message > news:1543a3e7.0305300637.67d9c44a@posting.google.com... > >>Daniel Frechette wrote in message > > news:... > >>>Good day, >>> >>>I'm currently working on a project to modify an existing system that was >>>developed in Oracle Forms 4.5 (Web-enabled) and Java (J2EE, JRun, Oracle >>>DB). I now have a new application to develop but I don't know if it >> > should > >>>be done in Forms or Java. The new application has to be light and >>>accessible through a Web browser. I'm trying to assess the pros and cons >> > of > >>>both approaches but I know very little about Forms. Can anyone tell me >> > what > >>>are the TRUE ADVANTAGES AND DISADVANTAGES of Oracle Forms? Does anyone >> > know > >>>of any studies or architecture comparisons that might be helpful? >>> >>>Thank you, >>>Daniel >> >>Hi Denial, >> >>Java gives you two possibilities to create user interface: >>1. HTML interface generated by JSP >>2. Windows Swing that can be run as applet in browser. >>3. Windows Swing that can be run as installed application >> >>Oracle Forms gives one possibilities for web: >>1. Applet in browser window (size is big). >> >>So if you need HTML interface you can't use Forms. >> >>If you decide that applets is OK for your system you should decide >>what approach is better. >> >>Forms is more high-level tools then Java. But it is very specific. >>It's depended on PL/SQL and set of interface triggers. User interface >>on forms usually is poor. You don't need think about network >>communication and database. But you also don't have control for it. >>Interaction with operating system is also poor. >> >>On the contrary Java depended on well-known standards and give you >>full control on program. It is allow you write perfect GUI. But it is >>more low level and time to start with Java is higher. >> >>I think Java is better and flexible solution for most application. And >>Oracle supports Forms mainly for old systems. >> >>Regards, >>Michael >>Brainbench MVP for Oracle Programming >>http://www.brainbench.com > > > i have been told that forms has alot of network traffic over the web.. do > you know if this is accurate? > > Yep - version 4.5 iirc. SUrely you don't use that, do you? -- Regards, Frank van Bortel