Re: Going to Open World in San Francisco? Come two day early and get no charge DB2 tech training with certification testing
From: <crussell_at_us.ibm.com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:02:59 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <d41f9f89-d736-4b27-afd6-24cf393057e0_at_googlegroups.com>
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:55:41 AM UTC-4, joel garry wrote:
> On Sep 19, 8:14 am, cruss..._at_us.ibm.com wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:46:48 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
>
> > > In a world that is increasingly "big data", extended database skills are a plus. The DB2 Workshop for Oracle Professionals is designed especially for Oracle professionals to teach the differences and advantages of DB2, while also offering a no-charge certification testing opportunity.
>
> >
>
> > > This workshop is being held in San Francisco in the 2 days prior to the start of Open World -- so you come a little early and extend your skills to include DB2 by day and enjoy San Francisco by night.
>
> >
>
> > > Agenda and registration:www.ibm.com/db2workshop. Note that space is limited, so I suggest early registration.
>
> >
>
> > Well I felt that this post was really relevant. We have run a number of these workshops worldwide and people come out of them pleased with what they learn -- especially because the course
>
>
>
> Just because _you_ felt it was relevant just means _you_ are incapable
>
> of reading and understanding a group charter. The
>
> comp.databases.oracle.* hierarchy has a charter, which you could
>
> easily find by googling, say:
>
>
>
> comp.databases.oracle.server charter
>
>
>
> What you might be able to glean from that is cdos (that's the
>
> abreviation style that is common on usenet, it stands for
>
> comp.databases.oracle.server, the group where you have now posted
>
> twice in violation of the charter) is a technical group, and only
>
> technical postings are allowed here. That doesn't mean your post is
>
> not allowed, or even not encouraged: it simply means that commercial
>
> postings go in comp.databases.oracle.marketplace, not here. It
>
> doesn't matter if they are interesting, or point at an interesting
>
> website. Now, one might think there is argument on where to draw the
>
> line here, and there have been. So you are also expected to have
>
> followed the group and observed the zeitgeist. Personally, I would
>
> lean towards allowing posts such as yours, because I'm a liberal. But
>
> this has been gone over again and again, the potential for abuse is
>
> (and the potential realized has been) so high, that posts like yours
>
> are clearly for cdom. It doesn't matter if it is free as in beer.
>
>
>
> > is tailored to existing professional database knowledge -- so it doesn't teach what you already know but rather teaches what is different. People coming out of the workshop understand DB2 in a much deeper way and really appreciate the skills and knowledge of the instructors who teach this technical workshop. The no charge certification testing opportunity helps people validate their skill set -- and increases flexibility when it comes to looking for a new job. In any case I will put it over in marketplace.
>
>
>
> Ah, so you do understand what you did wrong. But surely you must have
>
> anticipated antipathy posting about a competitor in the group? Surely
>
> no one needs Captain Obvious to think it is a provocative gesture to
>
> advertise such a class at OOW? So I can only conclude that you and
>
> your company are assholes on purpose. I can appreciate that in an
>
> underdog.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > And Big Data is not a bunch of "bullshit" as someone alluded to in this stream. IBM has a bunch of products that help people do more with their data. Take a look:http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/bigdata. And yes, the site does have a professional look done by the marketing people but the products are real. DB2 plays a role in the solutions. My point is that it doesn't hurt to know more about industry solutions.
>
>
>
> That would be me. I'm not looking at your site unless you give one
>
> good technical reason why I should. Here's some hints: I work with
>
> ERP and MRP enterprise software. I work for people who have long been
>
> upset with Oracle. So if your market isn't bullshit for my situation,
>
> give me one good reason. Otherwise, all I can do is conclude you are
>
> indeed, just a spammer. Time wasting marketeering does hurt. There
>
> are also people here (not me so much) who see "certification testing"
>
> as a negative marker.
>
>
>
> jg
>
> --
>
> _at_home.com is bogus.
>
> http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/sep/18/prolific-disabled-access-lawyer-be-disbarred/
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:02:59 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <d41f9f89-d736-4b27-afd6-24cf393057e0_at_googlegroups.com>
On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 11:55:41 AM UTC-4, joel garry wrote:
> On Sep 19, 8:14 am, cruss..._at_us.ibm.com wrote:
>
> > On Thursday, June 14, 2012 12:46:48 PM UTC-4, (unknown) wrote:
>
> > > In a world that is increasingly "big data", extended database skills are a plus. The DB2 Workshop for Oracle Professionals is designed especially for Oracle professionals to teach the differences and advantages of DB2, while also offering a no-charge certification testing opportunity.
>
> >
>
> > > This workshop is being held in San Francisco in the 2 days prior to the start of Open World -- so you come a little early and extend your skills to include DB2 by day and enjoy San Francisco by night.
>
> >
>
> > > Agenda and registration:www.ibm.com/db2workshop. Note that space is limited, so I suggest early registration.
>
> >
>
> > Well I felt that this post was really relevant. We have run a number of these workshops worldwide and people come out of them pleased with what they learn -- especially because the course
>
>
>
> Just because _you_ felt it was relevant just means _you_ are incapable
>
> of reading and understanding a group charter. The
>
> comp.databases.oracle.* hierarchy has a charter, which you could
>
> easily find by googling, say:
>
>
>
> comp.databases.oracle.server charter
>
>
>
> What you might be able to glean from that is cdos (that's the
>
> abreviation style that is common on usenet, it stands for
>
> comp.databases.oracle.server, the group where you have now posted
>
> twice in violation of the charter) is a technical group, and only
>
> technical postings are allowed here. That doesn't mean your post is
>
> not allowed, or even not encouraged: it simply means that commercial
>
> postings go in comp.databases.oracle.marketplace, not here. It
>
> doesn't matter if they are interesting, or point at an interesting
>
> website. Now, one might think there is argument on where to draw the
>
> line here, and there have been. So you are also expected to have
>
> followed the group and observed the zeitgeist. Personally, I would
>
> lean towards allowing posts such as yours, because I'm a liberal. But
>
> this has been gone over again and again, the potential for abuse is
>
> (and the potential realized has been) so high, that posts like yours
>
> are clearly for cdom. It doesn't matter if it is free as in beer.
>
>
>
> > is tailored to existing professional database knowledge -- so it doesn't teach what you already know but rather teaches what is different. People coming out of the workshop understand DB2 in a much deeper way and really appreciate the skills and knowledge of the instructors who teach this technical workshop. The no charge certification testing opportunity helps people validate their skill set -- and increases flexibility when it comes to looking for a new job. In any case I will put it over in marketplace.
>
>
>
> Ah, so you do understand what you did wrong. But surely you must have
>
> anticipated antipathy posting about a competitor in the group? Surely
>
> no one needs Captain Obvious to think it is a provocative gesture to
>
> advertise such a class at OOW? So I can only conclude that you and
>
> your company are assholes on purpose. I can appreciate that in an
>
> underdog.
>
>
>
> >
>
> > And Big Data is not a bunch of "bullshit" as someone alluded to in this stream. IBM has a bunch of products that help people do more with their data. Take a look:http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/bigdata. And yes, the site does have a professional look done by the marketing people but the products are real. DB2 plays a role in the solutions. My point is that it doesn't hurt to know more about industry solutions.
>
>
>
> That would be me. I'm not looking at your site unless you give one
>
> good technical reason why I should. Here's some hints: I work with
>
> ERP and MRP enterprise software. I work for people who have long been
>
> upset with Oracle. So if your market isn't bullshit for my situation,
>
> give me one good reason. Otherwise, all I can do is conclude you are
>
> indeed, just a spammer. Time wasting marketeering does hurt. There
>
> are also people here (not me so much) who see "certification testing"
>
> as a negative marker.
>
>
>
> jg
>
> --
>
> _at_home.com is bogus.
>
> http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/sep/18/prolific-disabled-access-lawyer-be-disbarred/
Here is the link to the book written by the techies about Big Data and IBM products: https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/signup.do?source=sw-infomgt&S_PKG=500016891&S_CMP=is_bdebook1_bdmicrornav Received on Wed Sep 19 2012 - 11:02:59 CDT