Path: news.cambrium.nl!textnews.cambrium.nl!feeder1.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!216.40.30.109.MISMATCH!novia!news-out.readnews.com!transit4.readnews.com!postnews.google.com!c34g2000pri.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Noons Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.server Subject: Re: The penny hasn't dropped yet... Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 13:50:52 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 31 Message-ID: <2f898cd3-4475-4d2d-9bdc-7ddc2a1137ab@c34g2000pri.googlegroups.com> References: <9ecb922c-7348-41fe-8a76-fbc8587ba33e@a16g2000pre.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.202.124.168 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1267653052 26688 127.0.0.1 (3 Mar 2010 21:50:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:50:52 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: c34g2000pri.googlegroups.com; posting-host=203.202.124.168; posting-account=oJZDiQoAAAD-FXU2V1mvdIjuYivOHSlr User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100202 Firefox/3.5.8 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: news.cambrium.nl On Mar 4, 5:23=A0am, John Hurley wrote: > You do not need to run the Oracle Config Manager "live" you can run it > disconnected so that it gathers the config information required to get > an SR moving and then you can feed in the output. John, please! I am *fully* aware of how OCM can be run: I installed and examined it AGES ago. It is a viral tool. It has no place ANYWHERE in a modern data centre. Period. > Since you can gather the information disconnected you are free to look > at all this information before you ship it into Oracle. I am not even remotely interested in wasting my time filtering what is sent to Oracle: my employer doesn't pay me to do Oracle's work. Is that clear? > As long as Oracle support makes up the rules about "necessary" > information ... well there's not much we can do if we need them to > work on an SR. Guess what: we are the paying client of a service, we make the rules. Basic law of business, as well as common law. Oracle better not forget that... > You can try going up the support foodchain without supplying it. You bet. And I can also make my next support payment dependent on Oracle changing their attitude.