Path: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu!spool.maxwell.syr.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newshub.sdsu.edu!news.astraweb.com!router2.astraweb.com!216.168.1.164.MISMATCH!sn-xt-sjc-04!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: DA Morgan Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.server Subject: Re: 10g and FTE's Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2006 09:29:41 -0700 Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie Message-ID: <1144168180.762776@yasure.drizzle.com> User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5 (Windows/20051201) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <1144147311.096410.166980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1144147311.096410.166980@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cache-Post-Path: yasure.drizzle.com!unknown@oracle.advtechserv.com X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 39 Xref: dp-news.maxwell.syr.edu comp.databases.oracle.server:264817 Michael42 wrote: > Hello, > > It is true that Oracle 10g is very advanced and can help an Oracle DBA > more than earlier versions. There are some sales verbiage being > propagated that suggests that 10g is so advanced that it will replace > the need for Oracle DBAs or in an environment with mulitple DBA's you > can fire some seasoned DBA's as they will not be needed. As an OCP I > have my opinion but I am asking for your non-sales technical opinion > here. > > QUESTION: > In a growing enterprise environment with multiple database servers > running complex and large databases (some VLDB) is Oracle 10g so > advanced that an organization should consider firing DBA's? > > > Thanks, > > Michael42 There is no question that the tools in 10g are far more sophisticated than those in previous versions and there is no question in my mind that those who learn them will still have jobs 5 years from now while those that don't will start learning to say "Do you want fries with that?" The very same pressures that are obsoleting jobs are working against technology workers too. It is not hard to see a point in the future where a single DBA, plus backup, will be able to manage hundreds of databases using a more sophisticated Grid Control. But that day is not here yet. RMAN, for all of its capabilities, still needs someone at the wheel that knows what the loss of a control file actually means. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)