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Re: No future for DB2

From: Joel Garry <joel-garry_at_home.com>
Date: 8 Aug 2005 16:17:32 -0700
Message-ID: <1123543052.515664.127900@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>

Larry wrote:
> I duuno ... don't see any signs that IBM is losing significant market
> share. Look at other examples in various industries ... for many
> products, there are usually at least 2 or 3 or 4 main survivors who end
> up there for the long-term. You don't even have to be the market share
> leader ... just have a significant presence. Hertz/Avis,
> American/United/Delta, Krups/Braun/Cuisinart, pick your example.

Man, you know how to pick some bad examples. Hertz/Avis bought by auto manufacturers to dump unwanted cars, declining market share due to Enterprise et al,
http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_km3609/is_200301/ai_n8624267 in as bad shape as airlines. American/United/Delta - do you not read the papers? "These days no one can make money on the goddamn airline business. The economics represent sheer hell." - C. R. Smith, President of American Airlines. "A recession is when you have to tighten your belt; depression is when you have no belt to tighten. When you've lost your trousers - you're in the airline business." - Sir Adam Thomson "This is a nasty, rotten business." - Robert L. Crandall, CEO & President of American Airlines. "Today, the situation is exacerbated with costs exceeding revenues at four times the pre-September 11 rate. Today, we are literally hemorrhaging money. Clearly this bleeding has to be stopped - and soon - or United will perish sometime next year." - James Goodwin, chairman and CEO of United's parent company UAL. The unions of the (at the time) employee owned company forced his replacement. 17 October, 2001 "I didn't take this job to preside over a bankruptcy. I refuse to accept that United Airlines is collateral damage from Sept. 11." - Jack Creighton, new chairman and CEO of UAL Corporation, 28 October 2001. UAL entered bankruptcy on 9 December 2002. "You fucking academic eggheads! You don't know shit. You can't deregulate this industry. You're going to wreck it. You don't know a goddamn thing!" - Robert L. Crandall, CEO American Airlines, addressing a Senate lawyer prior to airline deregulation, 1977. "Deregulation will be the greatest thing to happen to the airlines since the jet engine." - Richard Ferris, CEO United Airlines, 1976. "If we went into the funeral business, people would stop dying." - Martin R. Shugrue, Vice-chairman Pan Am. "I can't imagine a set of circumstances that would produce Chapter 11 for Eastern." - Frank Lorenzo "As a businessman, Frank Lorenzo gives capitalism a bad name." - William F. Buckley "If you would look up bad labor relations in the dictionary, you would have an American Airlines logo beside it." - U.S. District Judge Joe Kendall, issuing a restraining order against an American Airlines APA pilot union sick out, 10 Feb 1999. http://msnbc.msn.com/id/8703311/ Delta about to croak... Don't know anything about the Germans besides http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/1/1/6/6/11662/11662-h/11662-h.htm#17 and Braun makes a lot of money with shaver cleaning device refills.

jg

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