Re: No future for DB2

DA Morgan apparently said,on my timestamp of 31/07/2005 3:32 AM:

replying to both:

>> never.  Don't know where the shops are that are using Java, and
>> most certainly don't see any commercial applications using it.
>> I have seen a couple of file-manager-applets, but not much
>> else, or  installation programs.  Maybe inside intranet apps,
>> but even there never heard of many.

Seen a few Intranet apps. Developed by sites that can afford the extreme resources needed to develop ANYTHING in Java/J2EE. I'm seeing a little dotnot + Java use, although I seriously question the sanity of anyone doing so. Unless of course they already have inhouse Java skills.

>
> Again the deciding factor may be geography. I see a lot of Java
> here in the US Pacific Northwest. See a lot of .NET too ... but
> the interest in .NET seems to be waning and interest in PHP
> increasing.

Well, it depends on what you look at. Client-side, I still see a lot of Javascript. But it is being more and more replaced by serverside scriptlets with php. PHP seems to be THE technology to replace/complement the zillions of Javascript lines out there. As for Java applets, they almost don't register. There is a lot of flash stuff. dotnot doesn't register either, but then again it's NOT a client-side architecture!

Server-side, Java and J2EE have a presence in larger sites that can afford development workstations more powerful than the target server and other deranged architectural decisions. Where damagement is too heavily bought out by the big makers. Other than that, it's mostly a non-event nowadays: anyone with half a brain and finite financial resources has gone dotnot all the way. Some are still using Java, but the overall bottom line seems to be C# and VB.

And that is, IMHO, the MAJOR OVERWHELMING advantage that M$ has got and the competition hasn't yet clicked into: you are NOT locked-in to one language. You use whatever language expertise is easier and cheaper to find! A lesson in TRUE openness that Oracle seems to have COMPLETELY forgotten.

Not before time Java/J2EE gets thrown off the landscape, quite frankly: never seen such a pile of rubbish being touted as a "technology". What that will do to those like Oracle (and IBM) who invested heavily on the deranged thing, well, we'll see. They were clearly warned, MANY TIMES, the whole thing was an exercise in applied stupidity. You got Sun to thank for that lunacy.

Maybe we'll see some management finally biting the bullet and cleansweeping the Java crap off the place? Sure, it'll have to be washed with liberal applications of marketing bullshit. That shouldn't be a problem.

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