Re: Been reading a few messages...

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:36:14 -0700, Andreas Sheriff interested us by writing:

>
> Damn it, people!
>
> The Sun is shining!
>
> Why do you all like to cogitate and postulate on the most esoteric and
> meaningless things?!?!
> As you have all said before. Oracle is complex enough. Stop arguing about
> the minutia of a minute statement!

Has little to do your YOUR statement, and everything to do with 'what value is OCP'. The OCP discussion has happened several times - I happen to be in the side the sees value in it, in spite of it's flaws, and want to see it used 'right'.

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> As a matter of fact, saying "Oracle Certified DBA" does not
> differentiate whether or no one is an OCA, OCP, or OCM. It merely means
> one is a DBA certified in some respect by Oracle. They could be an
> entry level DBA, an average DBA, or an expert Oracle guru.
>

That is my point.

And together with that, my other point is that saying 'Oracle Certified DBA' is worse than useless - it's confusing, especially in light of the fact that such certification does not exist. If you are an OCP and want to admit it, then state that. I point to David's posts as proof of the resulting confusion.

> The truth is that I am OCP certified on both 9i and 10g. I just got
> them, in fact, but I've been dealing with Oracle for the past 5 years
> (8i, 9i, and 10g).

Congratulations.

> I am reading the manuals so that my knowledge of Oracle will be
> complete. There are things in the manual that neither the certification
> tests nor the certification books teach. I've learned this essential
> truth because I started out in the computer world as a programmer, and
> in programming, sometimes code is not what it seems, even though you
> wrote it that way. It would behoove anyone, certified or no to read
> these manuals. I know they total 55k+, but that's the life we chose.

My respect for you has shot up several 100 %

> From time to time I make stupid comments like the union thing (never
> hither to fore to be mentioned again) just to see what other people
> think. It is my way of picking your brain(s). Don't have a conniption
> over it!

We all do.

> Go play with your children, already! They miss you.

Actually, this is what I do to get away from them. They are grown up and really don't want me playing with them. (They also don't like my other hobby.)

> ... That's the last time I post to this newsgroup.

That is indeed sad.

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