Matthias Hoys wrote:
> "DA Morgan" <damorgan_at_psoug.org> wrote in message
> news:1116694802.968042_at_yasure...
>
>>Billy wrote:
>>
>>>These were mounted in existing RAC cabinets. So no railings needed.
>>
>>The point I was trying to make is that for price comparison you need
>>to compare equal configurations. Rail kits cost about $250/1U server
>>and with G5s they are built-in ... no need to pay extra for them.
>>
>>
>>>There were no hidden extras either. We got RHES WS for the majority and
>>>RHES AS for about a dozen. I think that the total cost per V20z was
>>>far under $10,000 (including RH and additional Infiniband h/w and SAN
>>>connectivity h/w per node).
>>
>>I'm not sure how to interpret "far under" but a dual proc G5 cluster
>>node has a list price of $4.8K and I am aware of them being discounted
>>to $3.6K. So even with an extremely liberal interpretation of "far
>>under" I'll bet you are more than double the actual cost of hardware
>>that is both more secure and has far better performance.
>>
>>
>>>>is Oracle providing a Mac version of the RDBMS. Oracle support will
>>>>absolutely stand behind this hardware-o/s combination and I have
>>>>guarantees that they will support up to, IIRC, an 80 node cluster.
>>>>Remember clustering is an Oracle product and has nothing to do with
>>>>the understanding hardware. RAC runs, ASM runs, DataGuard runs, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>Accept that. But Apple Mac servers of the past ran OS/9. OS/X (although
>>>build on a mature o/s) is a new comer on the Mac hardware. There were
>>>more than a fair share of teething problems with it. The G5 CPU does
>>>not compare ito price & performance with AMD or Intel (as benchmarks
>>>have shown). The AMD 64bit CPUs are impressive to say the least.
>>
>>Surely you drinking more scotch than I am. The AMD and Intel benchmarks
>>are so far from the IBM P5 that they need a telescope to see that far.
>>Did you miss the fact that the G5's are using top line IBM P5 CPUs?
>>BTW: We are seeing 100-120MB/sec throughput on these and this isn't
>>maxing out anything. Even if the AMD and Intel CPUs were the equal of
>>the P5 the fact that they are sharing an 800MHz bus whereas the G5 has
>>dual independent 1.25GHz buses would be enough to make the difference.
>>
>
>
> Daniel,
>
> Any idea where I can find recent (independent) online benchmark comparisons
> of Intel vs AMD vs PowerPC processors ?
>
> Thanks
> Matthias
I haven't seen anything published, non-NDA, that I can refer you to but
this will allow you to put together your own comparison.
http://www.apple.com/g5processor
There are a couple of white papers in .PDF format you might find
interesting.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
http://www.psoug.org
damorgan_at_x.washington.edu
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Received on Sat May 21 2005 - 16:47:34 CDT
