Re: Are Oracle DBAs trivialized?

In message <qeg461h44g7v6vhtl903651qvm75e5klc0_at_4ax.com>, Sybrand Bakker <postbus_at_sybrandb.demon.nl> writes
>On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 11:54:59 +0100, Jim Smith
><jim_at_jimsmith.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>
>>Why should they switch to RMAN? The currently backups presumably work
>>fine, and there will be a significant cost in terms of DBA (and other
>>time) in making the switch and testing it.
>>
>>Do the benefits of RMAN outweigh these costs (and the risks associated
>>with the disruption of something as fundamental as backups?) Almost
>>certainly, but some figures in terms of DBA time saved, s
>
>Apparently, you don't know RMAN, otherwise you wouldn't have made
>those comments.
>The company still NOT using Rman is not be envied, as Oracle clearly
>considers RMAN to be core technology, interweaving it more and more
>with the core database product.
>

I do know RMAN and think all oracle sites should be using it, but that is not the point. The point is that management need to be persuaded that it is worth doing and shouting "this is the best technology" or "vendor x says this is the best technology" is not the way to do it.

>As for your remarks on not upgrading: do you recommend companies to
>dump their support contract if they don't plan to upgrade.? Probably
>you don't. But if they don't upgrade, what is the value of their
>support contract?
>

I don't recommend anything. I was talking about the arguments that need to be addressed to persuade people to upgrade.

>All in all I get the feeling you will soon get trivialized, as you
>don't seem to realize once you stop keeping your skills current,
>inevitably *you* will be dumped sometime, and stay unemployed, as your
>cv qualifies you as a dinosaur.

On the contrary, someone who can't read what is written, makes up information which is absent, clearly has no understanding of how business works, and jumps into personal insult without provocation is much more likely to be "trivialized".

Specifically, you don't know what my attitude to keeping my skills up to date is, and you haven't seen my CV so your ludicrous last paragraph is worthless.

You seem to working very hard to outdo Daniel Morgan as an irritating, knee-jerk bigot.

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