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Re: spfile

From: Mark D Powell <Mark.Powell_at_eds.com>
Date: 5 Nov 2004 07:34:30 -0800
Message-ID: <2687bb95.0411050734.2cfabcf@posting.google.com>


"Howard J. Rogers" <hjr_at_dizwell.com> wrote in message news:<418ad185$0$24942$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au>...
> "Oradba Linux" <techiey2k3_at_comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:1bAid.46596$HA.33011_at_attbi_s01...
> > Using spfile and old fashioned rollback segments, once a bunch of new
> > rollback segments are added how do you update the spfile
> > so that they are online next time you recycle the database
>
>
> It ought to be something like
>
> alter system set rollback_segments='RBS01, RBS02, RBS03, RBS04'
> scope=spfile;
>
> ...ie, just a comma-separated list of segments.
>
> But it is so long since I used rollback segments rather than undo, I don't
> actually have a system I can test that on easily. So it might not be that at
> all!
>
> Just curious: why wouldn't you want to use automatic undo?
>
> Regards
> HJR
Here are some reasons why some sites may not have switched to using undo tablespaces instead of manually managed RBS segments:

1- some sites have complained about 1555 errors under auto undo management that did not occur under their manual RBS management. There are apparently times where automatic undo gets very aggressive with releasing segments.

2- under heavy load some sites have complained that new undo segments are allocated consuming the undo tablespace when unused segments were available and should have been reused.

3- You run RAC and do not trust that Oracle has all the kinks worked out of the feature in version 9 or 9.2

And the most likely reason sites are not using the feature 4 - traditional RBS management is working well so the DBA has not got around to making the change because there is not real way to test it without actually using it in production due to load differences between test and production.

5- If the DBA is willing to make the change to production, IT management does not want to take what they see as an unnecessary risk. In the past new features often brought new bugs with them and managment does not forget being burned.

IMHO -- Mark D Powell -- Received on Fri Nov 05 2004 - 09:34:30 CST

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