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Re: Oracle development versions

From: Howard J. Rogers <hjr_at_dizwell.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 06:15:09 +1000
Message-ID: <412ba1cb$0$2036$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>


Kenneth Koenraadt wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 07:50:27 +1000, "Howard J. Rogers"
> <hjr_at_dizwell.com> wrote:
> 

>>Kenneth Koenraadt wrote:
>>
>>> On 23 Aug 2004 05:57:55 -0700, v.oosterbaan_at_chello.nl (SonO) wrote:
>>>
>>>>guiuriarte_at_yahoo.es (Guillermo Uriarte) wrote in message
>>>>news:<fe26aa89.0408222251.cea867_at_posting.google.com>...
>>>>> Anybody knows if there is something like the MSDE for the Oracle
>>>>> database server?
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to learn Oracle, but it seems there are at least three CDs to
>>>>> install and my PC is a bit old.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Nope, there isn't.
>>>>
>>>>Download Oracle 10G - it's only 1 CD.
>>>>Just sign up (free) and check technet.oracle.com.
>>>>Loads of information and downloads.
>>>>Don't forget to RTFM before you start, they made it for a reason ;o)
>>>
>>>
>>> Especially, if you are installing it on a workstation running DHCP,
>>> the 10g installer will complain that it cannot obtain an IP address.
>>> Apparently, you can ignore these errors and install successfully
>>> anyway.
>>
>>
>>In my experience, you definitely can not ignore those errors, and the
>>installation will be a complete pig if you try.
>>
>>10g goes utterly beserk on a DHCP machine, and there've been a number of
>>posts to that effect made here over the months.
>>
>>Oracle itself in its installation guides is abundantly and unambiguously
>>clear on the matter: DHCP is a no-no. They even provide the workaround: go
>>install a loopback adapter and assign a fixed IP address to it. In that
>>way, you can make a DHCP machine *look* as though it has a fixed IP
>>address.
>>
>>I suppose you could look at that one way and say, "so you *can* install on
>>a DHCP machine".
> 
> Exactly. My comment regarded a *workstation*, on which one would only
> install Oracle Server for testing.

I know. In fact, I'm not sure what else it could ever have been thought to be referring to.

> I have installed it on a 
> workstation (which like 97,1% of all workstations runs DHCP),
> disregarded the errors and been able to test the new features without
> problems. It's unsupported and even immoral, but possible.

Then we have had different experiences, because a lot of the sexy new features in 10g will simply not work with DHCP, unless you have previously implemented the workaround that makes your DHCP machine look like it's got a fixed IP address.

We're allowed to have different experiences, I guess.

> 
> BTW, when I installed 20g together with an existing 9.2 it seemed to
> blow up the latter one....:--

Archaic! The new 21h is much better...

:-)
HJR

> 

>>I tend to look at it and say 10g and DHCP just do not get
>>on, and you have to do something to make it appear as if DHCP is not in
>>the picture before you can get anywhere.
>>
>>Regards
>>HJR
>>
>>
Received on Tue Aug 24 2004 - 15:15:09 CDT

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