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From: "Howard J. Rogers" <hjr@dizwell.com>
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"Mike Ault" <mikerault@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:37fab3ab.0406060757.7f180aaa@posting.google.com...

> Howard,
>
> If conceding the point and declaring the thread closed is being bad,
> then yes, I guess I qualify. I prefer not to flog a dead horse and get
> on with other topics myself.

The topic *is* closed. Read my post again. I wasn't criticising you for
holding any opinion on clustering factor whatsoever. I was criticising the
fact that you never once replied to a post of mine or Richard's in that
thread, except right at the end to declare the thread closed. Your
substantive replies were always made to others. The post where you
acknowledged your clustering_factor ideas were wrong was made in reply to
Noons... and with all respect to Noons, he had not exactly been making much
of the running in that thread on the point.

I was, in short, commenting on the clear distaste for debate you appeared to
exhibit, not on the nature of that debate itself.

> I thought that I had followed method, I had a theory, you had a
> theory, I defended mine until I could experiment and determine which
> held more validity and when yours proved more viable, I conceded the
> point and, did so publicly. Again, if this qualifies me as bad, well
> so be it.

No, that's just a wilful misreading of my post. Quote: "in the sense of,
'one who doesn't like to be
challenged or who thinks it beneath them to justify their opinions'". The
quality of those opinions is not the issue. Nor the fact that you conceded
anything. That you couldn't deign to hold a debate with Richard or myself
directly... *that* is the issue.

> I personally find it offensive when someone is not gracious in winning
> a point but must push the other persons face into it repeatidly, not
> quite cricket as the English would say.

Well, English wouldn't say it, because this has nothing to do with rubbing
your face in it. The technical merit of your opinions, or your willingness
to concede they were wrong, has nothing to do with what I was writing about,
as is obvious from the words I used. The point was how you replied in that
thread. Not what you replied with.

HJR


>
> Mike Ault


