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Richard Foote wrote:
> "Daniel Morgan" <damorgan_at_x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:1074813213.561743_at_yasure...
>
>>Jim Gregory wrote: >> >>Think ahead. With 10g ASM a disk management program such as Veritas will >>be redundant. 10g will do everything Veritas can do and more, such as >>I/O load balancing, and all included in the standard 10g license at no >>additional cost. >> >>Why spend the money? >> >>--
That may be so. But long before the system is ever implemented 10g will be released and then ... I think one must weigh spending tens-of-thousands of dollars, and perhaps training time against the cost of just doing nothing for five or so weeks.
> I think you're jumping ahead of yourself. Although 10g is an exciting
> prospect and ASM sounds wonderful (Steve Adams for one rates it "the"
> feature of 10g), it's not quite available at the moment. Although I'm not on
> the beta program, several "birdies" who are suggest we might have to wait a
> bit more until quite a number of "show stoppers" are resolved.
They are likely a few Betas back from what I've seen. They may still have Beta 2 whereas numbers in the double-digits are now floating about.
And there are
> quite a number, hence all the somewhat embarrassing delays, although I would
> prefer Oracle to wait and iron out the bugs that make the product unusable
> in a production sense, rather than rush out any premature release.
I absolutely agree. But last I heard 10g had less than a handful of show-stopper bugs. It is a lot closer to release than your associates might think. Hopefully not rushed ... just very close to ready.
> That said of course, I'm not too sure I would recommend any major production
> implementations with the first release of 10g (if the first release of 7, 8,
> 8i and 9i are any indications). So one would be a little fool hardy to
> implement the solution you propose in any production environment by years
> end (assuming 10g is actually released by years end :)
Agree again. But then I'm conservative and wouldn't implement anything, not even Veritas or a new O/S release without putting it through thorough testing. I am advising a few weeks of patience ... not cutting a bleeding trail directly to production.
> The other issue of course is pricing. I haven't yet officially heard how the
> pricing is going to work and what gets bundled in and what doesn't. So if
> one is willing to wait for a stable, mature solution from Oracle, one might
> still have to "spend the money" anyways.
ASM is definitely included as core technology and not subject to an additional licensing fee (at least I have what I think are good reasons to believe that is the case). At this moment 10g licensing is the same as 9i licensing. If any changes are made ... I would expect the license fee to go down ... not up.
> I'm sure 10g will (eventually) be a fantastic and exciting release but
> meanwhile, life must go on ...
>
> Cheers
>
> Richard
But of course. A little Bowie ... a little scotch: A warm tropical island in the Pacific ....
-- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan_at_x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)Received on Sat Jan 24 2004 - 09:42:00 CST
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