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Re: Where is Oracle’s Grid ?

From: Hans Forbrich <forbrich_at_yahoo.net>
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 22:34:35 GMT
Message-ID: <3FDE3747.FFF5ABD1@yahoo.net>


Joel Garry wrote:
>
> Hans Forbrich <forbrich_at_yahoo.net> wrote in message news:<3FDDD2D0.FCC3B718_at_yahoo.net>...
>
> I would have agreed with Mladen if he had differentiated between
> Oracle Consulting and Oracle Consultants.

I think Mladen blew it when he mumbled that Oracle wanted to provide an advantage for their consultants and said he's going to DB2. Big Blue has made it very public that their future is in Professional Services, especially Consulting drag after sales - IIRC, that was the core message to a recent annual report. I'm sure Blue's gonna give him a level field <g>

>
> I think he has a point about DEC. IMO DEC was successful because it
> was able to skim off those customers from Iron Big Mama that could run
> their apps on minicomputers - and it died when it couldn't see that
> micros would do the same thing to it. Is the same thing going to
> happen with load distribution? Quite possibly, and it might be a big
> mistake to bet the farm on a couple of flying pigs. Big Iron is still
> around, after all.
>

I somewhat agree with his & your assessment of DEC, although I believe the lynchpin reason they died is because of the 'me-too' attitude behind Alpha and OSF-1 instead of taking VMS to the next level. Me-toos can only really differentiate on price and DEC was not set up for price-based competition in that environment. Unfortunately DEC's marketing folk seemed to be after 'easy' instead of 'solid' (something like a bank's loan officer saying 'first business of this kind = too risky; 15th in an overcrowded field after 5 successes = here you go! <sigh>), based on the apparent success of Unix & therefore OSF-1. (Sadly I see Sun following the same path.)

Not quite sure where your flying pigs statement is going. (If you mean that Blue is equivalent to a pig, I won't argue - I assume it's based on your experience <g>)

Oracle is clearly stating that the future is in small non-SMP units that can interact. The only mistake I see is the price point being out of whack with the current expectations for small non-SMP units - something I think Microsoft will correct within 2 years by jacking the bejaziz out of their pricing model. Received on Mon Dec 15 2003 - 16:34:35 CST

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