Galen Boyer <galenboyer_at_hotpop.com> wrote in message news:<uwu98xa51.fsf_at_standardandpoors.com>...
> On Sat, 06 Dec 2003, damorgan_at_x.washington.edu wrote:
>
> > You'll have to excuse me but I got stuck at "Each developer has
> > his own local instance."
> >
> > Someone's got money to burn and is probably in gross violation
> > of their license with Oracle Corp.
> >
> > I've never seen a development project assembled this way
> > ... ever.
>
> As far as we understand the licensing, we pay for production
> instances. As long as we are developing for an application which
> will be deployed to a purchased Oracle instance, I understood
> this to be fine. We deploy to a Solaris based Oracle instance,
> but each developer has a local instance of Oracle on windows. If
> this is a licensing issue, I'd like to know. Our DBA crew never
> got up in arms based on licensing issues and they are in charge
> of our relationship with Oracle. They didn't like it because of
> the hassle of maintenance. At one point, I had 13 java
> developers and 5 database developers, each with their own
> instance. The number of instances never was a hassle, at all.
> They truly didn't quite care where their database was. What this
> did allow was for them to work completely offline and
> autonomously. They had weblogic and Oracle installed local and
> could work from thier living rooms.
>
> And please reread were I explain how this actually came about.
> I've never overseen or worked in any place where each developer
> had her own instance, but damn, it has worked out far better than
> I could have imagined. I was reluctant to go that route, but I
> was more reluctant to use the development environment under the
> complete control of the DBA team. I didn't have time to waste
> fighting their insane guidelines. So, I instead drafted up and
> maintained very specific instructions to follow for creation of a
> local instance as well as helped them through it anyways.
>
> You want to know something? The first week I was there, their
> head guy sent me their database guidelines with a very stern "You
> will learn our guidelines". I was reading them and just couldn't
> believe that anyone had written such bunk, then about 3/4 of the
> way through, I saw, "if you have any questions, please see the
> Oracle 7.3 manuals". We were on 9i for Christs sake. But, these
> DBA guys actually sent this out as their "guidelines". I wasn't
> even going to try to argue with them.
oracle is making us pay for a development box we are setting up. It
has an 80% discount, but its not free.
Received on Wed Dec 10 2003 - 06:58:45 CST
