Re: Re:(OT) Outsourcing developer to India and China - As an Oracle developer I am miffed

Noons wrote:

> "Howard J. Rogers" <hjr_at_dizwell.com> wrote in message
> news:3f85e4d1$0$28120$afc38c87_at_news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>
>> adjective 1. of or relating to the world, or to things not religious,
>> sacred, or spiritual; temporal; worldly. 2. not relating to or connected
>> with religion, as literature, music, etc. 3. dealing with non-religious
>> subjects, or, especially, excluding religious instruction, as education,
>> etc. 4. (of members of the clergy) not belonging to a religious order
>> (opposed to regular). 5. occurring or celebrated once in an age or
>> century: the secular games of Rome. 6. going on from age to age;
>> continuing through long ages.
>
> 6 is the key.

To what? Are you now claiming that 'going on from age to age' means the same thing as absolutist monarchy??

>
>> I see a lot of religion. I don't see a lot of family-inherited power
>> structures.
>
> Hey, what the heck! Search on google for the words
> "secular government". 1,970,000 hits. I guess it's a quite
> popular concept. Put quotes around them to get the exact
> expression and you *still* get 21200.
> If that is a "neck of the woods", I'm OK with it. :)

It's a popular concept because it's a valid reality: secular government, as opposed to theocratic government. Government without God. Perfectly sound idea. Not a big feature of the 18th century, though. And nothing to do with absolutism, rigidity or similar concepts.

>
> That "re-writing" history?

Yup, because there was nothing remotely secularist about government in the 18th century, and Nixon wasn't impeached.

>Anyways, as a simple test, I just
> typed "18th century secularism" (sic) into google and got this:
> http://www.uiowa.edu/~english/specialties/religion.html
> amongst 6050 others. From a university, no less. What can
> I say, for an "invention of history" it's remarkably popular...

Do you actually read the web sites you suggest before suggesting them?? That web site opens with a large icon of what appears to be the Madonna, is headed 'Religion, Secularism and Ethics', and therefore clearly makes the point that secularism is a system of ethics in contradistinction to religion. Your claim, on the other hand, was that secularism has something to do with, or is in contradistinction to, rigidity, absolutism, monarchy. On theface of it, that's not right.

Regards
HJR

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