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Re: Oracle 9i New Features or Data Guard Course

From: Richard Foote <richard.foote_at_bigpond.com>
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 02:15:16 GMT
Message-ID: <UIJhb.145812$bo1.50427@news-server.bigpond.net.au>


"Jitendra Patel" <coldrainandsnow_at_lycos.com> wrote in message news:7610580f.0310101453.632f8abc_at_posting.google.com...
> I liked the Oracle9i New Features class.

Hi Jitendra

So obviously Oracle University has some good courses and some good instructors ....

>
> However, I think for best learning DO NOT use Oracle University.
>
> Many of their instructors suck (just ask Howard), and like HJR, most
> have no real-world experience and stupid, non-useful degrees like Art
> History majors.

How many ?

All organisations have "suck" employees but I would suggest Oracle tolerates them less than many other organisations. I agree that the "quality" of a course is highly dependent on the quality of the instructor but I would argue your ratio of good to bad.

>
> There are many independent Oracle trainers offering classes by
> experienced DBA staff. Far better than Oracle University IMHO.
>
> Here is one such place with real-word experienced instructors:
>
> http://www.tusc.com/oracle/training/course_schedule.html

I understand you have a vested interest in TUSC being employed by them but I would suggest that your general ramblings actually do far more damage than good to TUSC's reputation.

I've never had the pleasure of attending a TUSC course but I would suggest that despite having I'm sure some excellent instructors, TUSC also would have their fair share of those that "suck" (your term). Such gems from someone as high profile as Richard J Niemiec and I quote "Generally speaking, fragmentation decreases performance by 10-20 percent on average" and goes on to say "To repair fragmentation, you'll need to monitor your database to find the fragmented tables/indexes. It's recommended that you regularly monitor your database to find tables/indexes fragmented into more than five pieces (or extents)" (P.109 Oracle Performance Tuning) and this gem regarding b-tree indexes "The binary height increases mainly due to the size of the table and the fact that the range of values in the indexed columns *is very narrow*" (P.78 Oracle Performance Tuning) and this topical classic "Tables that are joined (simultaneously accessed during a query) often should have their data and index separated" (P.99 Oracle Performance Tuning).

The list of technical myths and inaccuracies goes on and on and on. And this in a book that covers up to Oracle8i by an "experienced DBA staff" at TUSC.

You get my point.

Jitendra, may I strongly suggest that next time you post, you follow your own advice and post something that is positive, technically accurate and above all, something that is actually helpful to a fellow poster. You have offered no technical advice at all and I can only assume that you therefore know little of Oracle and that your current position at TUSC is that of office cleaner.

Or are your posts typical of the technical output provide by TUSC's "real world experienced instructors".

Let's hope not ....

Cheers

Richard Received on Fri Oct 10 2003 - 21:15:16 CDT

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