Path: newssvr20.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: Daniel Morgan Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.server Subject: Re: Automatic startup of multiple instances on one Win2k-Machine?? Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:33:25 -0700 Organization: University of Washington Message-ID: <1063153988.302670@yasure> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <52d3eb63.0309080041.384c2315@posting.google.com> <1063033407.688154@yasure> <52d3eb63.0309090045.72bb2e2@posting.google.com> <3f5d9725$0$246$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net> <91884734.0309091446.5483af7c@posting.google.com> <3f5e5c92$0$14558$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> In-Reply-To: <3f5e5c92$0$14558$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060407020400070409020600" Cache-Post-Path: yasure!unknown@pond178.drizzle.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.4.0b5 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 158 Xref: newssvr20.news.prodigy.com comp.databases.oracle.server:242747 --------------060407020400070409020600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howard J. Rogers wrote: >"Joel Garry" wrote in message >news:91884734.0309091446.5483af7c@posting.google.com... > > >>"Niall Litchfield" wrote in message >> >> >news:<3f5d9725$0$246$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net>... > > >>>Things that can cause this behaviour are >>> >>>1. The service is set to autostart but the instance isn't, daft as it >>> >>> >sounds > > >>>you can configure these seperately >>> >>> >>I'm not sure whether it's me or Oracle that is daft (although I'll >>gladly accept psychotropic prescriptions when dealing with 9iAS), but >>are they now calling things "instances" that don't have databases >>associated with them? That's how I'm reading metalink note 243561.1, >>where they talk about "installed on BOTH Infrastructure AND Mid-Tier >>instances." Or is it just weird for me because I'm trying to do it on >>one box? Or did I lose an instance somewheres? Or is there some >>different definition of home and instance on windows? >> >> >> > >True: 9iAS has instances, too. But they are not the same instances as we are >used to on the back end. Your quote appears to refer to 9iAS. > >And yes, I've complained about it in the past, but I'm not sure what you >*would* call an, er, 'occasion' of an install of 9iAS. > >Regards >HJR > > > It appears that marketing at Oracle has way too much time on its hands when it comes to renaming products. SQL*Forms to Oracle Forms to Developer to Developer/2000 to Developer Suite to Internet Developer Suite or the constant rename of Context to Intermedia to Oracle Text to .... or my personal favorite .... is it a pfile, parameter file, init.ora, initSID.ora, .... But when it comes to words like BLOCK and INSTANCE they seem to be snorting Novocaine. Taking the same word and reusing it to mean wholly different and incompatible things. -- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply) --------------060407020400070409020600 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howard J. Rogers wrote:

"Joel Garry" <joel-garry@home.com> wrote in message
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"Niall Litchfield" <n-litchfield@audit-commission.gov.uk> wrote in message

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Things that can cause this behaviour are

1. The service is set to autostart but the instance isn't, daft as it

sounds

you can configure these seperately

I'm not sure whether it's me or Oracle that is daft (although I'll
gladly accept psychotropic prescriptions when dealing with 9iAS), but
are they now calling things "instances" that don't have databases
associated with them?  That's how I'm reading metalink note 243561.1,
where they talk about "installed on BOTH Infrastructure AND Mid-Tier
instances."  Or is it just weird for me because I'm trying to do it on
one box?  Or did I lose an instance somewheres?  Or is there some
different definition of home and instance on windows?


True: 9iAS has instances, too. But they are not the same instances as we are
used to on the back end. Your quote appears to refer to 9iAS.

And yes, I've complained about it in the past, but I'm not sure what you
*would* call an, er, 'occasion' of an install of 9iAS.

Regards
HJR

It appears that marketing at Oracle has way too much time on its hands when it comes to renaming products.

SQL*Forms to Oracle Forms to Developer to Developer/2000 to Developer Suite to Internet Developer Suite
or the constant rename of Context to Intermedia to Oracle Text to ....
or my personal favorite .... is it a pfile, parameter file, init.ora, initSID.ora, ....

But when it comes to words like BLOCK and INSTANCE they seem to be snorting Novocaine.
Taking the same word and reusing it to mean wholly different and incompatible things.

-- 
Daniel Morgan
http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp
http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp
damorgan@x.washington.edu
(replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)

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