Re: "pretty Oracle SQL" utility

Karsten Farrell wrote:

> joel-garry_at_home.com said...
> > > formatted, clear and readable code generation. A better tool does not make a
> > > better programmer, but I have a hard time believing it makes a worse one.
> >
> > Daniel, I think you have a valid point, but I think you may be
> > mis-evaluating a distinction between learning to code properly with
> > good habits, and simple formatting correction.
> >
> > jg
> > --
> >
> I agree. While I have often wished that those developers who preceded me
> had learned to write clear, human understandable code ... well, alas!
> ... in the real world, I often had to slog thru the muddy waters of
> someone's spaghetti code to find where I needed to make a change. Even
> COBOL, proclaimed by its developers as a self-documenting language, in
> the hands of a haphazard thinker became sheer torture to modify.
>
> If all developers were organized, then there wouldn't be a market for
> these beautifiers ... and apps written in object-oriented languages
> would be composed of simple, clearly defined modules or classes that
> could be folded together into a seamless, full application. And pigs
> would fly.
> --
> /Karsten
> DBA > retired > DBA

Hate to be harsh here but in the real-world management should (meaning CAN) take active responsibility for what it pays for and developers should stop being a bunch of John Wayne cowboys and adhere to professional standards of responsibility. If they don't/can't follow the standards ... if they don't format their code ... there are a couple of hundred unemployed developers waiting to take their place who would appreciate the opportunity to get out of the unemployment queue.

Joel is correct. MS Word has encouraged more poor spelling and poor grammar than vi.

And without hesitation I will say that those that can cut and paste in vi are substantially more computer savvy than those that can do it in Word. Which does not mean I plan on using vi as my primary word processor ... so don't ask.

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Daniel Morgan
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