Path: news.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!skynet.be!skynet.be!213.51.129.3.MISMATCH!newshub1.home.nl!home.nl!not-for-mail From: Frank Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.server Subject: 8i install on Xeon proc has similar install problems as P4 Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:46:53 +0100 Organization: @Home Benelux Lines: 123 Message-ID: <3E63B12D.7050000@netscape.net> References: <3e5f3fba$0$81501$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc28855-a.hnglo1.ov.home.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl 1046720772 3065 217.121.193.81 (3 Mar 2003 19:46:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:46:12 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20021120 Netscape/7.01 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en Xref: newsfeed1.easynews.com comp.databases.oracle.server:178296 X-Received-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 12:46:05 MST (news.easynews.com) Howard J. Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 11:53:18 +0100, Konstantinos M wrote: > > >>"Howard J. Rogers" wrote in message >>news:pan.2003.02.28.09.37.50.433537@yahoo.com.au... >> >>>On Thu, 27 Feb 2003 13:51:19 +0000, Konstantinos M wrote: >>> >>> >>>>Hi all, >>>> >>>>I went through many posts here and elsewhere but didn't find a >>>>solution to my problem so I could definitely use some help. >>>>I am installing 9i on a P4 Win 2K machine which has already 8.1.7 to a >>>>different oracle_home. I am having a problem because OUI quits right >>>>after I pick the installation type (enterprise, standard, whatever), >>>>and the installaction.log mentions no error but its last entry is >>>>about prerequisite queries. I don't think it's the P4 bug, metalink >>>>says this problem was fixed with 9i but just to make sure I am >>>>installing from HD after renaming the symsomething.dll but still have >>>>the problem. Does anybody have any ideas what could be wrong ? I am >>>>starting to get kinda desperate. >>>> >>>>Thanks in advance >>>>Kostas >>> >>> >>>I wish we could clear this nonsense up once and for all. Oracle 8i (that's >>>EIGHT EYE) was released before the Pentium 4 processor, and hence the >>>Pentium 4 bug. Oracle 9i was released after the Pentium 4 processor had >>>been around for a long time, and hence THERE IS NO PENTIUM 4 BUG IN 9I. >>> >>>There are zero problems installing 9i on a Windows machine that is >>>*clean*. >>> >>>And that's all the advice I can give you. >>> >>>Sorry >>>HJR >> >>Howard, I think you need a vacation. > > > Whatever. Personally, I find it ridiculous in the extreme that anyone who > had done the least bit of research as to the nature of the P4 bug would > even propose it as an excuse for their problems in 9i. You're not alone in > jumping to totally illogical conclusions, either. It's become something of > a mantra here '9i install won't work...must be the P4 bug'. > > >>Anyway, since we both agree it's not the P4 bug (stupid me tried everything >>cause I was desperate), and apart from yelling, do you have a solution ? If >>not, your advice besides wrong (*) is completely useless and your answer >>irritating. > > > Not as irritating, I venture, as not telling us minor details like your > service pack level or the amount of RAM you have. Nor as irritating as > people latching onto some non-existent bug as if it absolves them of the > need to think. > > >>It's like saying to a guy with a half loaded truck and loading >>problems that they would not have problems loading an empty one. Um ok, >>yeah, thanks I guess. > > > OK: Put it this way then: I've installed 9iR1 and 9iR2 onto W2K and XP machines > probably over 100 times, and I've never had an issue doing it. Your > machine has got 8i on it already. I've also done plenty of those sorts of > install... but I start with a fresh Windows install, install 8i, install > 9i. No problems. > > Yet you are having problems. So either you don't know how to install > Windows properly. Or your 8i installation is not fresh. Or there's > something else on that box that's stuffing up the 9i install. (Such as, > for example, an installation of Java somewhere). > > In each case, starting with a clean machine gives you an opportunity to > sort the kak out. > > >>I take the chance to mention here that older (2002) threads in Metalink with >>the exact same problem are unfortunately still open. >> >>(*) At home I had a clean w2k machine with NOTHING on, where I tried to >>install 9i. The installer told me at the beginning that it cannot be >>installed without service pack 1 > > > So what you're telling me is that you don't read the installation > documentation, because otherwise this requirement would not have been a > surprise. That might explain a lot. > > >>(which I hadn't installed) and after I >>installed the latter smoothly OUI aborted at 30something% saying that the >>SP1 was not installed. So much for the "zero problems installing 9i on a >>Windows machine that is*clean*" > > > And in over 100 installs, I've never had such a problem. So you explain > how come I can get it right and you can't? > > Of course, I've never tried installing in anything less than 192MB of RAM. > I know how to configure Windows. I don't apply Service Pack 3 until > after Oracle is safely installed. And I don't stint on swapfile space. > > So, as for my advice being wrong... maybe. But at least I'm running 9i on > W2K on a Pentium 4, and you're not. Go figure. > > HJR > I had an installation today on a Xeon SMP machine (running NT...) that failed to start 8i installer - same fix as for p4 resolved the issue. Bottom line: "this is not a P4" may be a Xeon... with the same issues on 8i (mind you - Not 9i!) installations. Perhaps the Xeon is P4's big brother? -- Regards, Frank van Bortel