Re: Metalink for developers?

From: Frank <fvanbortel_at_netscape.net>
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:19:49 +0100
Message-ID: <3E4D6B85.5080706@netscape.net>

Bill Lucas wrote:
> "Andy Hassall" <andy_at_andyh.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:r6co4vkt4ae84u6t7ud3h9mgnjr03p18ho_at_4ax.com...
>

>>On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:50:52 -0800, DA Morgan <damorgan_at_exesolutions.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Also if you read the license you would know that Oracle does not allow
>>

> you to
>

>>>develop in the free download version. That download version is for demo
>>

> and
>

>>>evaluation purposes. If you are using it for development you are
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> technically in
>

>>>violation of the agreement you made with Oracle for the download.
>>
>> Doesn't look like it says that (at least not now, anyway - has it

>
> changed?)
>

>> (Legalese isn't my first language, though)
>>
>>"License Rights
>>We grant you a nonexclusive, nontransferable limited license to use the
>>programs only for purposes of developing and prototyping your

>
> applications, and
>

>>not for any other purpose.  If you use the applications you develop under

>
> this
>

>>license for any internal data processing or for any commercial or

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> production
>

>>purposes, or you want to use the programs for any purpose other than as
>>permitted under this agreement, you must contact us, or an Oracle

>
> reseller, to
>

>>obtain the appropriate license.  We may audit your use of the programs.
>>Program documentation is either shipped with the programs, or

>
> documentation may
>

>>accessed online at http://otn.oracle.com/docs.
>>
>>Ownership and Restrictions
>>We retain all ownership and intellectual property rights in the programs.

>
> The
>

>>programs may be installed on one computer only, and used by one person in

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> the
>

>>operating environment identified by us.  You may make one copy of the

>
> programs
>

>>for backup purposes.
>>
>>You may not:
>>·use the programs for your own internal data processing or for any

>
> commercial
>

>>or production purposes, or use the programs for any purpose except the
>>development and prototyping of your applications;
>>·use the applications you develop with the programs for any internal data
>>processing or commercial or production purposes without securing an

>
> appropriate
>

>>license from us;
>>·remove or modify any program markings or any notice of our proprietary

>
> rights;
>

>>·make the programs available in any manner to any third party;
>>·use the programs to provide third party training;
>>·assign this agreement or give or transfer the programs or an interest in

>
> them
>

>>to another individual or entity;
>>·cause or permit reverse engineering or decompilation of the programs;
>>·disclose results of any program benchmark tests without our prior

>
> consent; or,
>

>>·use any Oracle name, trademark or logo."
>>
>>--
>>Andy Hassall (andy@andyh.co.uk) icq(5747695) (http://www.andyh.co.uk)
>>Space: disk usage analysis tool (http://www.andyhsoftware.co.uk/space)

>
>
> Andy,
>
> That is the same license agreement I went back and read just to make sure.
> The EULA can be found at
> http://otn.oracle.com/software/htdocs/devlic.html?/software/products/oracle8
> i/htdocs/winsoft.html DA Morgan's warning echoes one I received via private
> email. We are not trying to be software pirates here, and are perfectly
> willing to do what it takes to "remain legal". As I read the license
> agreement you posted it seemed to me that we did have the right to use it
> for development purposes. There seems to be some confusion on the issue,
> and I don't really want to cause any problems.
>
> Can anyone clear this matter up? From how the EULA reads it would seem that
> it is appropriate for our use, and since once you agree to the EULA it takes
> you straight to a download page I can't see how they expect anyone to know
> that that is for evaluation purposes. Besides if it were wouldn't they time
> limit the software's functionality? I know they have lots of other products
> that are time limited.
>
> Regards,
> Bill
>
>

You can develop/prototype. Look into it. Get used to it. Taste it. Get acquainted.

But as soon as you start thinking about marketing and/or selling, you need a license.

So, go ahead and build a system, using forms. But don't use it for anything else than prototyping, or you need a developer's licence.
Forms runtime is licence free (guess they pay that out of the rdbms license), for as long as the client/ server model is supported

-- 
Regards, Frank van Bortel

Received on Fri Feb 14 2003 - 16:19:49 CST