Re: Oracle 8i + Terminal Services on Win2k Server - it is possible?

From: Paul Brewer <paul_at_paul.brewers.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:54:53 -0000
Message-ID: <3e2b1daf_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com>

"Paul Drake" <drak0nian_at_yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1ac7c7b3.0301142319.33c9cb9a_at_posting.google.com... > "Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield_at_dial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:<3e247b6f$0$247$cc9e4d1f_at_news.dial.pipex.com>...
> > "Sybrand Bakker" <gooiditweg_at_nospam.demon.nl> wrote in message
> > news:dqj82v0vqj69ko2u2osfs48a03n5908jdt_at_4ax.com...
> > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 16:16:48 -0000, "Niall Litchfield"
> > > <n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Yes
> > > Beg/q to disagree with you on this one. The BEQUEATH protocol doesn't
> > > work on Microsux Terminal Services, and Oracle has no plans to fix
> > > this, as Microsux is the only vendor having problems.

> >

> > I believe I alluded to this problem in my reply.

> >


> > > In some cases

> > > you are *forced* to use BEQ and using a tnsnames alias is simply not

> > > possible. This is at least the issue with using the Oracle Agent for
> > > Arcserve.

> >

> > I'm not aware of any occasions where you are *forced* to use the BEQ
> > protocol., though I'll admit that in many cases it is the natural
protocol
> > to use. In the example you give, surely the appropriate solution would
be to
> > write a shell script and not bother with the 3rd party agent. Admittedly
> > what you save on software you will probably spend on disks to hold the
> > backups before they go to tape.

> >


> > > In the particular case the internal customer *only* wants to work with

> > > Microsux Terminal Server because that seems to be the only secure
> > > option.

> >

> > I couldn't possibly comment :(.

> >

> > Niall Litchfield

>
> Greetings, all.
>
> back in the day of 8.1.7, svrmgrl used bequeath - along with the
> utilities lsnrctl, namesctl and cmanctl.
> I believe that utilities such as Openlink [odbc] use it also.
>
> If you don't feel like coughing up the funds for NetOp, PC Anywhere or
> Timbuktu, there is always vnc. Development on that has seemed to
> pickup lately - check http://www.realvnc.org for the latest ...
>
> I see bequeath and MS Terminal Services incompatibilities to a be a
> blessing.
> Why would you want to have to support users running software on the
> console, virtual or otherwise - of an oracle server?
>
> Get them back onto an app server or their own desktops where they
> belong.
>
> Paul

What about when the DBA needs to fix something?

Regards,
Paul Received on Sun Jan 19 2003 - 13:54:53 CST