Path: news.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!spool01.syd.optusnet.com.au!spool.optusnet.com.au!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.databases.oracle.server Subject: Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments? From: Noons References: <998d28f7.0212250820.5cc2fb6@posting.google.com> <3e0ad5b0$0$7817$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <3E0B2C23.7257344B@exesolutions.com> <91884734.0212281615.2f57c92@posting.google.com> <91884734.0212301544.1ceaa778@posting.google.com> Organization: Completely disorganized, but still kicking! Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/L5 Date: 01 Jan 2003 14:13:24 GMT Lines: 46 NNTP-Posting-Host: 211.28.171.43 X-Trace: 1041430404 7816 211.28.171.43 Xref: newsfeed1.easynews.com comp.databases.oracle.server:170934 X-Received-Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 07:15:03 MST (news.easynews.com) "Bert Bear" wrote in news:z1tQ9.6103$SY4.2793808936@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com and I quote: > Ah, nothing in the computer industry meets your requirement of a state > board, independent of any maker. Why should employers / industry hold > Oracle DBAs to a higher standard than other IT professionals? Last I looked DBAs were taking care of the most valuable piece of information in any company: its databases. If that is not worth a certification based on an independent body, what is? > > Obviously, you'd be in favor of requiring programmers to have state > licenses (which might not be a bad idea) and to require malpractice > insurance, etc. Just like any other *professionals*. The point is: Oracle can't call this thing "Certified Professional" in its current format. It's an insult to people who have to be professionally certified, in other industries. The only way to get the proper salary recognition in future, in a tight market like it's gonna be. Think about it. > > Oh, and BTW, when I was in my 20s I looked around for state sponsored > computer board tests. People thought I was crazy. I hope you have > better luck. > I'm not looking around for anything, my 20's are long gone and my career is more near retirement than anything else. But that doesn't mean I have to gobble down the latest marketing plot for a quick money grab, without a whisper against it! -- Cheers Nuno Souto nsouto@optusnet.com.au.nospam