Re: Outrage that OCP exams are now unproctored - Comments?

But, mentioning no-one specifically in particular, when a self-professed DBA, claiming two versions' certification, can't even understand the difference between redo log multiplexing and redo log mirroring and demonstrates as much in postings to this newsgroup; or can't even read the Oracle documentation properly where the difference (and the preference) is pointed out in words of not very many more than one syllable; well, what does that tell you about the value of the OCP?

So much for a "rounded" education.

Personally, if a person doesn't know how to do a block dump and interpret the results properly, s/he shouldn't call himself/herself a DBA. And if there's one thing you won't learn on any OCP-based Oracle training course, it's how to do a block dump.

HJR "Bert Bear" <bertbear_at_NOSPAMbertbear.net> wrote in message news:PftQ9.6106$Zo5.2795633889_at_newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
> Noons,
>
> At a minimum an OCP shows the person has enough interest in being a DBA to
> get a rounded Oracle education.
>
> At this point in time, anyone (e.g. an used car salesman) can say hmmm,
what
> might pay better and start calling himself an Oracle DBA.
>
> When I see an used car salesman who passed these test it shows me, that
this
> used car salesman AT LEAST:
>
> 1) Read the manuals (or paid for an Oracle class or two) .vs. the other
> used car salesman who didn't
> 2) Retained enough information to pass the exams
> 3) Show enough interest in being an Oracle to take the time to study and
> pass the exams .vs. the other used car salesman who didn't.
>
> IMHO, an OCP is one of many things you must take into consideration when
> choosing an employee. It is NOT a golden key to the Oracle DBA washroom.
>
> I can only speak from personal experience. After working with Oracle
> products (DBA, OAS, Applications, etc.) for 5 years, I found getting the
OCP
> helped me round out my knowledge of the Oracle database. Studying for it
> helped me cover areas my management never needed me to cover. As one
person
> said (in another thread), management normally upgrades for support (not
the
> new features, which they might never use). He went on to say many
software
> products still only use Oracle 7 features and nothing more. By having an
> OCP, I know the person has at least an interest beyond saying "I have an
> interest." He should also have a general, detailed understanding of the
> Oracle database.
>
> Bertram Moshier
> Oracle Certified Professional 8i and 9i DBA
>
> http://www.bmoshier.net/bertram
>
>
> "Noons" <nsouto_at_optusnet.com.au.nospam> wrote in message
> news:Xns92F623B3C3393mineminemine_at_210.49.20.254...
> > danielroy10_at_hotmail.com (Daniel Roy) wrote in
> > news:1b061893.0212300844.1d469f8e_at_posting.google.com and I quote:
> >
> > > non-certified DBAs who knew well their stuff. But trust me, if you saw
> > > some of the DBAs I worked with (and had to rely on since they had the
> > > DBA title besides their name and the system password, and I didn't),
> > > you would agree with me.
> >
> > That is a very good point. Unfortunately, I don't think
> > the OCP in its current form is gonna change that one bit.
> > It's an attitude problem, not a qualification problem.
> > It shows itself as a lack of qualifications, sure.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cheers
> > Nuno Souto
> > nsouto_at_optusnet.com.au.nospam
>
>
Received on Wed Jan 01 2003 - 05:49:43 CST