Re: What Use is OCP? Plenty!

Actually, who would want to be certified as a Novice? Much easier to make it levels, like a certified Level 1 DBA is a novice (no hands on, no actual test of abilities), Level 2 is an intern (some certified hands on experience, a test of the fundamentals in a hands on environment) and a Level 3 (years of experience, in depth test of hands on ability, letters from employers, their mother and priest from the church of their choice stating competence).

What we have now is a baby step towards what we need, let's build on it, not destroy it. If we destroy it, no one will want to take on Oracle certification efforts again (after 3 failures (Oracle 6 cert by Oracle, Oracle 7 cert by Chauncey, and the current program)) perhaps push for a certification study group of independent Oracle experts to suggest improvements to the current program.

Mike
Pete Sharman <peter.sharman_at_oracle.com> wrote in message news:<an9sp80l68_at_drn.newsguy.com>...
> In article <TZVl9.43302$g9.124308_at_newsfeeds.bigpond.com>, "Richard says...
> >
> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >You make some good points but ...
> >
> >
> >In my opinion, a great deal can be 'fixed' via a simple renaming. Rather
> >than being a Certified Oracle *Professional*, it should be called an Oracle
> >Certified *Novice* (OCN). Seriously. Think about it. That's all passing
> >these exams prove at present. You have a basic understanding of the Oracle
> >principles and have proven as such by passing these exams. You have shown
> >yourself to have done some research, you've read a few books or attended a
> >few courses. You have crossed the "line in the sand" that suggests you can
> >crawl. You have also shown yourself to have some initiative and enthusiasm
> >which is a positive. Having such accreditation might make a prospective
> >employer consider such a person on a traineeship type basis. Being an OCN
> >is then an accreditation that has a clear, accurate definition and purpose.
> >It can then be promoted and marketed in a consistent manner, as a "key first
> >step" attracting those interested in a career in Oracle. An accreditation
> >which combined with a few years of Oracle Development work gears you towards
> >true professionalism and the next logical step (from a DBA perspective).
> >
> snip
> >
>
> OK, I watched this discussion for a while before I stepped in, mainly because a
> lot of it has been discussed before adn I couldn't see anything where I could
> add value. But now Richard has made these comments, I simply can't resist any
> longer.
>
> I'm sure that OU looked at the concept of an OCN before deciding not to use it,
> for one very simple reason - it's far too easy to make a typo and turn an OCN
> into a CON! :)
>
> OK, so I didn't add any value. Never mind!
>
> HTH. Additions and corrections welcome.
>
> Pete
>
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Received on Tue Oct 01 2002 - 10:17:30 CDT